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| Thread ID: 110215 | 2010-06-08 02:36:00 | iPhone 4 musings | nofam (9009) | PC World Chat |
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| 1107978 | 2010-06-08 02:36:00 | Anyone else distinctly underwhelmed by the feature set? The CPU and screen are certainly a step forward, but they're really only giving the iPhone parity with modern ARM-based handsets, not pushing the smartphone market forward; very much the evolution vs revolution approach. I'm certainly not knocking Apple, and credit where credit is due to them for creating a device which spawned a whole market sector, but I don't see much in the 4.0 that will worry HTC, or any other Android-aligned manufacturer; this (www.clove.co.uk mory+8GBMicroSDcard%29&Product=85A56848-7934-4DCF-8520-26B5BB58291B&Category=GROUP4) is available next week, and this (phandroid.com) is rumoured. My opinion is that Apple are exactly victims of their own success; they are/were so wildly innovative that anything less that exceptional seems average by comparison, and in locking down the iPhone's 'ecosystem' to ensure that apps were of a desired standard, they've opened the door perfectly for an open-source alternative to come in with the same method of development/delivery, but with none of the restrictions. Sure, people want guaranteed quality, but I think most people would rather sacrifice a little certainly for a lot more choice. |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 1107979 | 2010-06-08 02:53:00 | That Samsung looks like an iPhone knock-off.... Not much in the way of innovation from a UI POV. Looks like we've plateaued with regard to smartphones.... Bring on the folding/roll-up hi-res screens with batteries that can suck power directly from the air, I say!! :D |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 1107980 | 2010-06-08 03:19:00 | That Samsung looks like an iPhone knock-off.... Not much in the way of innovation from a UI POV. Looks like we've plateaued with regard to smartphones.... Bring on the folding/roll-up hi-res screens with batteries that can suck power directly from the air, I say!! :D Yeah, there's no question that Apple perfected the smartphone form factor, but the Samsung has some really nice features that the iPhone should arguably have for a freshly-minted device: S-AMOLED screen, a good amount of RAM, the Swype function, which would seem to be incredibly useful for heavy txters. And I'm not sure the Smartphone platform has plateaued tbh - I didn't create this thread to slag Apple and promote Google/Android, but some of the innovations being launched with Android 2.2 really are gob-smackingly cool. |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 1107981 | 2010-06-08 03:28:00 | I think you're right nofam, it is purely a small evolution rather than the revolution it has been in the past. I'm not quite as "blown away" as I have been, though perhaps it's because I've just watched three hours of Keynotes (Day 1 & 2 full) from the Google IO conference: www.youtube.com My thoughts on the iPhone 4: - Multi-tasking is nice, but it's not new. Android has it and has it well. Playing catch-up really. - The CPU speed is simply aligning them with the likes of the Nexus One or the Evo 4G - Video recording @ 720p is nice, but nothing really new, phones have had that resolution video before and this isn't revolutionary in the way they've done it either (Revolution is usually their excuse). Editing video on the phone itself is a nice feature though. - Two cameras, again it's been done, and VGA front-facing cameras are nothing to write home about ... - The browser is still cut-down, can't save files, and doesn't even have the *option* of running Flash, even if Flash is a battery sucking leech - Video chat is apparently the "big thing" from this release, but I'm hearing rumors that you can only FaceTime with other iOS users? What happened to the good old days when video-calling was video calling and the device didn't matter? That's how I remember my first video call a few years back now when I was with Vodafone on my Motorola! - RAM = 512MB, nothing special - Expandability is still locked down, no SD cards - The fact it's the slimmest on the market is nice, but not a be-all and end-all. Worth touting that badge while Apple can though! While I'm still torn with what should replace my iPhone 3G, it's looking more like an upgrade to the Nexus One in a month or two rather than an upgrade to the iPhone 4. See a nice comparison of the hardware here: www.tipb.com |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1107982 | 2010-06-08 03:30:00 | I didn't create this thread to slag Apple and promote Google/Android, but some of the innovations being launched with Android 2.2 really are gob-smackingly cool. +1 Aside from battery life and the increasingly sluggish-feeling CPU, I've been quite happy with my iPhone 3G I take it you've seen those videos then from Google IO? Specifically they talk about Android a lot in Day 2's videos. |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1107983 | 2010-06-08 03:45:00 | I feel that 90% of the cool new stuff is in the OS and not the hardware. and the OS upgrade is going to be free... |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 1107984 | 2010-06-08 03:46:00 | found this www.macworld.com "iOS 4.0 will be available June 21 as a free update for the iPhone 3G and 3GS, as well as to the second- and third-generation iPod touch; note that the 3G and second-generation touch don’t support the multitasking feature. The update will be available for the iPad later this fall." |
GameJunkie (72) | ||
| 1107985 | 2010-06-08 03:47:00 | +1 Aside from battery life and the increasingly sluggish-feeling CPU, I've been quite happy with my iPhone 3G I take it you've seen those videos then from Google IO? Specifically they talk about Android a lot in Day 2's videos. No I haven't actually Chill :o - thanks for pointing them out though. I think Google have really been flawless at how they've thought out their Master Plan; they're effectively out-Appled Apple, because they understand it's not about the numbers/handset specs/killer apps, but about integration, and how well everything interoperates; if you ask an Apple fan why they love their Mac/iPhone, it's invariably because "they just work". Google too realise that knitting everything together in a fast, reliable, & open (free!) infrastructure is the way to get people interested, and Android 2.2 is a clear step in that direction. And the Flash debacle is crazy IMHO - sure it's a bit of a bloated, insecure platform, but it's pretty much a web-standard for better or worse. And it's not a good look for Steve Jobs to criticize it when he has a vested interest in h.264, as Geoff Palmer point out in this months' PC World (Shameless Plug for a Good Article) |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 1107986 | 2010-06-08 03:54:00 | Try buying an android phone here though...especially if wary of parallel importers. You can officially get an LG (on 1.5 with no upgrade unless you root it), or the Sony Xperia. Everything else has to be imported, and therefore of debatable warranty support. I've been seriously looking a the Samsung i5700...upgradable to 2.1 through samsung, but with this iPhone announcement I may look at the iPhone 4 or a 2nd hand (or new 3gs). I think for current iphone users with a 3gs, they'd be disappointed/annoyed with the iphone 4. But new entrants, or those upgrading from a 3g or 2g would probably be quite happy. BTW I'm a Symbian s60 user, looking to get off, and at the money I'd say Apple probably has my money, even though the said i5700 is only $400. |
psycik (12851) | ||
| 1107987 | 2010-06-08 04:19:00 | Try buying an android phone here though...especially if wary of parallel importers. You can officially get an LG (on 1.5 with no upgrade unless you root it), or the Sony Xperia. Everything else has to be imported, and therefore of debatable warranty support. I've been seriously looking a the Samsung i5700...upgradable to 2.1 through samsung, but with this iPhone announcement I may look at the iPhone 4 or a 2nd hand (or new 3gs). I think for current iphone users with a 3gs, they'd be disappointed/annoyed with the iphone 4. But new entrants, or those upgrading from a 3g or 2g would probably be quite happy. BTW I'm a Symbian s60 user, looking to get off, and at the money I'd say Apple probably has my money, even though the said i5700 is only $400. That's a very valid point psycik - the speed (or lack thereof) of handset launches here is, frankly, a disgrace. And what makes it even more gauling is that if/when a device finally arrives, it's often saddled with a custom ROM, full of un-uninstallable apps/settings etc. |
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