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| Thread ID: 110360 | 2010-06-13 22:41:00 | Obese people complaining about not getting free gastric surgery... | wratterus (105) | PC World Chat |
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| 1110032 | 2010-06-14 19:58:00 | I watched that guy on Closeup last night bang on about how they urgently needed the operation because of the diabetes complications etc etc. First the operation forces the person to eat tiny amounts - because they clamp off most of your stomach. So eating a lot less is the fix. Could do that without surgery. And, I know someone who had this done apparently - looking at her now you wouldn't know - see, it is possible to slowly start to stuff yourself again, stretching the stomach back out and it all starts again. And, diabetes itself does not mean you will, without fail, get gangrene, retinal damage and kidney failure. You get those things because your sugar levels are too high on a regular basis. Either eat less or take more insulin. Although as that woman was having 5 injections a day already, she'd probably need an entire chemists supply of insulin to keep up with the amount she crams in. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1110033 | 2010-06-14 23:08:00 | salads can be posh and yummy. i cannot have a crap diet, cos I get stomach cramps, i need more fibre than most people just to stay regular. fillet of some fish or lamb is nice on a large salad with some wholemeal bread to wipe it up, half a glass of wine or just mineral water :thumbs: Skip the dessert. Occasionally I may have a few nuts after dinner watching telly. why have butter or olive/canola spreads when you can just have hummus and a sprinkle of herbs in that sandwich. not 2 but just 1. breakie is just cereals "all bran" a heck more fibre and less crap than most of the other cereals. special k's has bugger any nutritional value thou low in fat/sugar too.. snacks - just have fruits and filtered water. hot drinks without sugar. no fizzies. Hey Nomad - have you checked out how much fat is in the commercially-produced hummus? I love hummus, but was horrified to see how much fat was in a pot of Lisa's Gloriously Garlic hummus the other day. OK, it's not saturated fat (like in butter), but still.... Had to try to convince myself that the garlic was offsetting the fat from a heart-health point of view.... |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 1110034 | 2010-06-14 23:21:00 | He was there? But yeah, I'll take your word for it, apart from all the death and dying, the disease, the war, the sickness and the misery,the miserable life expectancy, You were all in great health.:stare: I'll take a cheeseburger over that any day, even if I do live until I'm 90..... I think you have Terry there Metla,unless of course he comes up with one of his songs,that usually brings a tear to my eye,the pain can be excruciating. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1110035 | 2010-06-14 23:56:00 | I havent read the whole thread. I just want to say 1 thing that comes to mind straight away. Who is enabling these people to get so fat? If not themselves, it has to be someone close!....***, maybe we should make that person pay for the surgery | SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1110036 | 2010-06-15 00:06:00 | They're being force-fed??? I don't think so! Discounting genetic or metabolic disorders which should have received medical attention years ago, one is forced to the conclusion that it is simply a disease of over-indulgence or perhaps a food addiction. Why are they suddenly whingeing that they can't get surgery to address a problem that must have been developing for most of their lives? It would seem that they have had no inclination to address the problem until it actually threatens their lives. |
Blue Druid (4480) | ||
| 1110037 | 2010-06-15 00:09:00 | In my view the taxpayer pays for the stapling or pays for other treatments down the line. I think the stapling may well be cheaper in the long run. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 1110038 | 2010-06-15 00:18:00 | Agreed, Sweep, although it must be said, despite down-stream treatments, they don't stand a lot of chance for making old bones unless something dramatic happens now. As has been said, the answer in the first instance lies in what they put in their mouths and if they were voluntarily trying to do something about their problem (as opposed to believing we have a responsibility to solve their problem for them), I would be much more inclined to see tax-payer dollars spent to help them. | Blue Druid (4480) | ||
| 1110039 | 2010-06-15 00:47:00 | I havent read the whole thread. I just want to say 1 thing that comes to mind straight away. Who is enabling these people to get so fat? If not themselves, it has to be someone close!....***, maybe we should make that person pay for the surgery I have to agree if the fat people are not to blame for themselves being fat someone is force feeding them. Lets find these people and prosecute to the full strength of the law. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1110040 | 2010-06-15 00:53:00 | +1 for Blue Druids thoughts | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1110041 | 2010-06-15 02:20:00 | Apologies if I missed it somewhere in the thread; several times by the same contributors. Some of us are old enough to remember the late David Lange's stomach operation. Did he pay for it himself, or was it courtesy of the taxpayer? |
Marnie (4574) | ||
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