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Thread ID: 110484 2010-06-19 03:00:00 Air Force or Navy? Sweep (90) PC World Chat
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1111497 2010-06-20 13:49:00 Wait.... .....we have an airforce??:devil rob_on_guitar (4196)
1111498 2010-06-20 19:56:00 Discovery wasn't a real Landrover there hasn't been a real one for years. The later ones had no Lucas anywhere, the first one I drove was the real thing. Vinyl seats, no carpet, shotgun port in the screen and spare wheel on the bonnet. They were designed for the farmer and made of Aluminium so that the farmer could just open the door and hose it down if it got too muddy inside gary67 (56)
1111499 2010-06-21 00:59:00 And they didn't rust either. I think they originally used Aluminium because steel was in short supply during WW2. Sweep (90)
1111500 2010-06-21 01:17:00 And they didn't rust either. I think they originally used Aluminium because steel was in short supply during WW2.

That is so completely the wrong way around.
Maybe some pom spotted the rust on the yank jeeps
prefect (6291)
1111501 2010-06-21 01:28:00 That is so completely the wrong way around.
Maybe some pom spotted the rust on the yank jeeps

Not it wasn't. There must have been a lot of aluminium stockpiled for aircraft production (all the pots and pans sent in to build a Spitfire).

There were quite a few things made from aluminium after the war as it wasn't as rationed as other materials.
PaulD (232)
1111502 2010-06-21 03:57:00 That what wikipedia might say buts its wrong. prefect (6291)
1111503 2010-06-21 05:01:00 That what wikipedia might say buts its wrong.

What exactly are you arguing? There are plenty of examples of British industry using aluminium immediately after the war because the Govt controlled the use of steel.

www.landrovergeeks.com

Jaguar also had to use alluminium because of rationing

"These early 120's were all hand-built in aluminum over an ash wood frame in a manner reminiscent of pre-war coach building methods. A total of 57 right-hand and 183 left-hand-drive XK 120 Roadsters were manufactured. Most of them were exported with a selected number for competition use. (Only by assuring the government a 90% export rate could Lyons be assured of receiving a sufficient allocation of Britain's then scarce metal resources.) Steel bodied ( still partially aluminum) began production in April 1950. " www.docsjags.com

This is where Terry chimes in with a comment on how the Vincent motorcycle design was influenced by the shortage of steel.
PaulD (232)
1111504 2010-06-21 07:03:00 The later ones had no Lucas anywhere, the first one I drove was the real thing . Vinyl seats, no carpet, shotgun port in the screen and spare wheel on the bonnet . They were designed for the farmer and made of Aluminium so that the farmer could just open the door and hose it down if it got too muddy inside

Yep thats what I call a real Landrover,and you sat on top of the fuel tank . On frosty mornings it was warmer outside than inside .


And they didn't rust either . I think they originally used Aluminium because steel was in short supply during WW2 .

I think the only areas that are prone to rust were the chassis, firewall, and door tops .
rebels181 (14841)
1111505 2010-06-21 07:06:00 Yep The chassis was built from mild steel. Sweep (90)
1111506 2010-06-21 09:05:00 What exactly are you arguing? There are plenty of examples of British industry using aluminium immediately after the war because the Govt controlled the use of steel.

www.landrovergeeks.com

Jaguar also had to use alluminium because of rationing

" These early 120's were all hand-built in aluminum over an ash wood frame in a manner reminiscent of pre-war coach building methods. A total of 57 right-hand and 183 left-hand-drive XK 120 Roadsters were manufactured. Most of them were exported with a selected number for competition use. (Only by assuring the government a 90% export rate could Lyons be assured of receiving a sufficient allocation of Britain's then scarce metal resources.) Steel bodied ( still partially aluminum) began production in April 1950. " www.docsjags.com

This is where Terry chimes in with a comment on how the Vincent motorcycle design was influenced by the shortage of steel.

Chime..chime
This is what Phil Irving said about the immediate post war situation:

" After five years of rationing, air raids and a six-day, 60-hour regular working week, the whole nation was tired.

Machine tools were worn to shreds.

Materials, especially steel, rubber, and copper, were short, and worse still, only obtainable by officials permits, very unfairly based on pre-war consumption, and issued on the condition that 80 percent of the products would be exported.

The Vincent-HRD Company had a comparatively tiny pre-war production, and our material allocation was pitifully small, except for aluminium, which was plentiful. "
End of quote.

The early bikes were made from existing wartime stocks of high quality aircraft grade materials, so they were able to get away with some not very good bearing material combinations. They also built up a reputation for long life and reliabilty. Later on things weren't so good, cheaper materials were used, and enthusiasts took to hard chroming and re-heat treating items such as cams and followers and various spindles.


Edit: No one has yet commented how anti-social and anti-ecological it is to drive vehicles in rivers.
Terry Porritt (14)
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