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1160696 2010-12-11 08:59:00 Hi all.

Over the last few weeks my PC has started misbehaving.

Playing games (Fallout 3 and Sacred 2) the games will crash after playing a while - Sacred just kicks me out and then restarts from where it was, Fallout starts getting graphic glitches before dying. Both games start running very slowly before this. I do get an error message in my taskbar, which say's something about the vid card driver having failed and restarted succesfully.

I have been monitoring temp with coretemp32 and have established this is happening when the cores get around 61 degrees (don't know about the graphics card temp) so had put it down to warmer weather, although never had this problem before. PCWizard confirmed the temps. Gave the inside of the case a good clean and carried on.

Problem is that the issue is continuing and now I getting the occasional:
-complete shutdown (PC turns off)
-Instances of screen going blank with a message that screen is auto-adjusting, and needing a hard reboot to fix

I've started thinking that maybe the vid card is on it's way out (hasn't been so warm here recently) or perhaps the PSU could be failing but hey, what do I know? By the way the PSU is a 250watt jobo that cam with the system.

Any suggestions as to how I could narrow down the cause of the problem? I'm fairly confident it's not malware or virus related as I've scanned with Malwarebytes, MSE and SuperAntispyware.

Ta very muchly in advance:)
Richardd150 (13927)
1160697 2010-12-11 10:39:00 Try running Prime95 (files.extremeoverclocking.com), that should stress your RAM/CPU so in turn the motherboard. If the PC doesn't crash you'll know the problem is the Graphic Card. As far as I know Prime95 doesn't stress the GPU.

Screenshot of my PC with Everest Ultimate, no game running.
WarNox (8772)
1160698 2010-12-11 10:43:00 You're running a dual core 5000+ AMD and an X1950 Pro off a nameless 250W PSU.....I would say failing or not you ought to replace it. qazwsxokmijn (102)
1160699 2010-12-11 19:06:00 I do get an error message in my taskbar, which say's something about the vid card driver having failed and restarted succesfully.

By the way the PSU is a 250watt jobo that cam with the system.
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OMG!!! I'm with qazwsxokmijn. You cannot use such a lame PSU even with your older equipment.


The GPU will be working hard, as you say, you get an error about it, that could be a problem with the card (but I think not) but for sure get yourself a decent PSU.

never use case bundled PSUs. Stick with quality brands, Corsair, Enermax, Antec.

Get something around 500w.
pctek (84)
1160700 2010-12-11 20:14:00 Try running Prime95 (files.extremeoverclocking.com), that should stress your RAM/CPU so in turn the motherboard. If the PC doesn't crash you'll know the problem is the Graphic Card. As far as I know Prime95 doesn't stress the GPU.

Screenshot of my PC with Everest Ultimate, no game running.

Thanks, I'll give that a go.
Richardd150 (13927)
1160701 2010-12-11 20:17:00 Get a new power supply unit. A 250watt one is overtaxing the system. Get at least a 500watt one.
:)
Trev (427)
1160702 2010-12-11 20:18:00 OMG!!! I'm with qazwsxokmijn. You cannot use such a lame PSU even with your older equipment.


The GPU will be working hard, as you say, you get an error about it, that could be a problem with the card (but I think not) but for sure get yourself a decent PSU.

never use case bundled PSUs. Stick with quality brands, Corsair, Enermax, Antec.

Get something around 500w.

Thanks qazwsxokmijn and pctek. I was considering upgrading the PSU but was looking for some good advice - I got it! Thanks for the advice on the PSU brands.
Richardd150 (13927)
1160703 2010-12-12 01:52:00 Get a new power supply unit. A 250watt one is overtaxing the system. Get at least a 500watt one.
:)

Boy was I misquoting the wattage, although not by much! It's actually 305 watts... but I've just put in an order for Antec EarthWatts 650W PSU ATX12V from Playtech anyway, as I thought it was a good idea.
Richardd150 (13927)
1160704 2010-12-14 07:46:00 Try running Prime95 (files.extremeoverclocking.com), that should stress your RAM/CPU so in turn the motherboard. If the PC doesn't crash you'll know the problem is the Graphic Card. As far as I know Prime95 doesn't stress the GPU.

Screenshot of my PC with Everest Ultimate, no game running.

Hi WarNox.

I went ahead and replaced the PSU as a starting point on the good advice of fellow forum members and it hasn't made any difference, possibly even getting worse - I figure I needed it anyway on my first build in a year or so's time or if I upgrade my vid card.

I used Prime95 for a stress test and thankfully there was no shutting down going on. The cores peeked at 70c and hovered around 68c until I killed Prime95 - idle temps are around 38-41c.

From what I've been able to read the idle temps look ok but it doesn't seem as clear with the upper temps, is 68-70c too high? When I game the core temps get to around 61c.

If that's not too high then I suspect that my vid card (which I got 2nd hand a couple of years ago) may be on the way out and has become overly heat sensitive.

Cheers and thanks for your advice:)
Richardd150 (13927)
1160705 2010-12-15 01:37:00 Hi all.
Anyone else able to contribute anything on appropriate tempature levels?
Richardd150 (13927)
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