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Thread ID: 110586 2010-06-23 21:32:00 'Secure your PC or lose the net' pctek (84) PC World Chat
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1112932 2010-06-23 21:32:00 www.smh.com.au

Australians would be unable to access the internet without having anti-virus and firewall programs installed and a virus-free machine under a new plan put forward by a year-long parliamentary cyber-crime inquiry.
pctek (84)
1112933 2010-06-23 21:52:00 Interesting article, but it wont work :groan:

As we all know, a person can have an antivirus on their PC and it still gets infected, especially if the AV is useless ( no brands mentioned) :rolleyes:

As for a firewall-- Windows comes with a firewall, so that blows that theory out of the water - just because it may not be of much use, wouldn't matter.

What about people that use Linux or MAC's -- most dont have an antivirus ?

As the article said -- ISP's putting on programs to monitor if you have such programs
Colin Jacobs, chairman of the online users' lobby group Electronic Frontiers Australia, complained that this would be the equivalent of installing "spyware" on users' computers.
wainuitech (129)
1112934 2010-06-24 00:21:00 It is Aussie after all, these clowns have laws to make you compulsorily vote in an election. prefect (6291)
1112935 2010-06-24 01:23:00 part of that could be easily done. ISP can pick up infectious traffic from that connection and simply disconnect them (or point them to a web page telling them to fix the pc).

the problem is there is so many people with infected pc's that there would be an uproar.

that measure won't stop all infections (as you won't be able to sniff all the data) but it should stop the big easy ones from spreading.
tweak'e (69)
1112936 2010-06-24 03:18:00 ISP can pick up infectious traffic from that connection and simply disconnect them

the problem is there is so many people with infected pc's that there would be ...............a massive improvement in speed for the rest of us.:lol:
pctek (84)
1112937 2010-06-24 03:26:00 It is Aussie after all, these clowns have laws to make you compulsorily vote in an election.
So do we ...

ISP's sniffing for suspicious traffic for notification purposes is one thing (and is probably quite a good idea in principle, although we would end up bearing the costs of such measures), compulsory installation of mandated software on all private machines with net access is quite another, and would be impossible to do, technically as well as ethically or legally.
fred_fish (15241)
1112938 2010-06-24 03:49:00 It is Aussie after all, these clowns have laws to make you compulsorily vote in an election.

And they wonder why the elected PM got rolled.
Twelvevolts (5457)
1112939 2010-06-24 07:52:00 I wonder, if this was implemented, how long it would be before file-sharing programs would be blacklisted. ubergeek85 (131)
1112940 2010-06-24 09:39:00 So do we ...

ISP's sniffing for suspicious traffic for notification purposes is one thing (and is probably quite a good idea in principle, although we would end up bearing the costs of such measures), compulsory installation of mandated software on all private machines with net access is quite another, and would be impossible to do, technically as well as ethically or legally.

No we don't. You are legally entitled to exercise your right _not_ to vote in New Zealand, whereas in Oz you can be fined if you don't vote.

My question is this: Where do you draw the line, and why just target PCs? With smartphones getting smarter, they too will become the target of malware in the future. Even reasonably cheap phones are internet capable, and also spyware capable. Do they plan to mandate everyone having Norton Antivirus on their phone?? What about embedded systems which are internet capable - such as the PDAs which Courier drivers use?
somebody (208)
1112941 2010-06-24 10:04:00 .......a massive improvement in speed for the rest of us.:lol:

:cool: :cool:
tweak'e (69)
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