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Thread ID: 110615	2010-06-24 23:47:00	How to net over $6k income in 4 hours	coldfront (15814)	PC World Chat

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1113324	2010-06-25 09:20:00	www.caradvice.com.au I wonder why NZ has worse statistics than most counties who have higher speed limits... Do consider that in most countries the weather conditions such as snow and ice on the road are FAR worse than in NZ. Our roads aren't as good as a lot of overseas ones.	mikebartnz (21)
1113325	2010-06-25 09:21:00	Forget the speedo margin if you stick to the indicated speed you'll probably be doing less than the limit although I've been told that Ford Falcons indicate ~100 @100. I doubt that the Police themselves have equipment with better than 1% accuracy. If I stick to my speedo reading of 100kmh I am doing 114kmh.	mikebartnz (21)
1113326	2010-06-25 10:23:00	If I stick to my speedo reading of 100kmh I am doing 114kmh. What vehicle and is it standard as far as wheels, tyres etc or just old? That result seems at odds with most modern requirements for any speedo error to be on the optimistic side.	PaulD (232)
1113327	2010-06-25 10:43:00	If I stick to my speedo reading of 100kmh I am doing 114kmh. Got two vehicles the exact same spec tyres etc and at 100 Kph one is actually doing 106 the other 97! Tyre wear and type identical! One car is however 1 year older and 100k high in mileage! Which one do you think is the 106kph at 100 vehicle? btw, before assuming anything neither of these cars have been photographed by a Revenue Van or will be unless that van is parked on a 100kph stretch of road as both read 50kph at 50:p See other thread for possible answer.	coldfront (15814)
1113328	2010-06-25 10:46:00	Made me wonder how much revenue is generated in the name of Road Safety from these cameras and how reliable the information is let alone how many peopl realise and would change their habits because of a financial penalty. Atitude that seems common is its only $30, $80 so just pay it and its gone away. With demerits the odds are you would take more notice given the potential for loss of licence. Does it improve road safety though? In 2008 the Police issued around 340,000 tickets from mobile cameras. I still don't believe that the log you saw resulted in tickets for speed under the publicly advised thresholds. Any speculation about how much would be raised from 100% enforcement is pointless.	PaulD (232)
1113329	2010-06-25 11:02:00	Got two vehicles the exact same spec tyres etc and at 100 Kph one is actually doing 106 the other 97! Tyre wear and type identical! One car is however 1 year older and 100k high in mileage! Which one do you think is the 106kph at 100 vehicle? btw, before assuming anything neither of these cars have been photographed by a Revenue Van or will be unless that van is parked on a 100kph stretch of road as both read 50kph at 50:p See other thread for possible answer. As we have not seen the source of this log you claim to have seen or any evidence that any person was actually given a ticket your theories belong in the same area as global warming. Very often vans are parked with speed measuring equipment to record the speed of vehicles and no tickets are issued at all. The reason for this is to measure what was called the 85th percentile. If the speed limit on a road happens to be 100 Kph and 85 % are actually doing 80 or 90 Kph the speed limit will get lowered accordingly.	Sweep (90)
1113330	2010-06-25 11:25:00	As we have not seen the source of this log you claim to have seen or any evidence that any person was actually given a ticket your theories belong in the same area as global warming. Very often vans are parked with speed measuring equipment to record the speed of vehicles and no tickets are issued at all. The reason for this is to measure what was called the 85th percentile. If the speed limit on a road happens to be 100 Kph and 85 % are actually doing 80 or 90 Kph the speed limit will get lowered accordingly. So it's your civic duty to travel at or above the posted speed limit, or EVERYONE gets punished by being legally required to travel at nana speeds... :D	johcar (6283)
1113331	2010-06-25 11:33:00	[/B] So it's your civic duty to travel at or above the posted speed limit, or EVERYONE gets punished by being legally required to travel at nana speeds... :D I don't mind who gets a ticket for what. It's more your civil duty to defend any infringement notice. If everyone did that it is going to take a very long time to get a hearing.	Sweep (90)
1113332	2010-06-25 11:36:00	sweep the qouted text was a seperate question which you did not answer why would that be? In 2008 the Police issued around 340,000 tickets from mobile cameras . I still don't believe that the log you saw resulted in tickets for speed under the publicly advised thresholds . Any speculation about how much would be raised from 100% enforcement is pointless . Did I say it was? although given I know of one ticket issued for 52kph then I would find it harder to believe the tolerances you want to believe in . As we have not seen the source of this log you claim to have seen or any evidence that any person was actually given a ticket your theories belong in the same area as global warming . I have a copy of the Log however showing it over the internet in an unsecure manner may be illegal . The log was obtained by a written request nothing wrong with the theory might even be a tad under the actual figure given speeds in excess of 10 and 15kph attract fines of $80 the $120! Therfore one vehicle travelling at 15 kph above the limit is equal in value to 4 cars travelling at 10kph above the limit . ;) Very often vans are parked with speed measuring equipment to record the speed of vehicles and no tickets are issued at all . You know this how? The reason for this is to measure what was called the 85th percentile . If the speed limit on a road happens to be 100 Kph and 85 % are actually doing 80 or 90 Kph the speed limit will get lowered accordingly . Nice theory another reason is traffic flow ;) Speed camera vans are not deployed to locations where they are not going to make a financial killing .	coldfront (15814)
1113333	2010-06-25 11:42:00	I don't mind who gets a ticket for what. It's more your civil duty to defend any infringement notice. If everyone did that it is going to take a very long time to get a hearing. Excellant idea now you got it! Its only $30 so just pay it without questioning the reason why! Like was stated earlier how do you remember something when it was 3 weeks prior? You just say I must of been there for you pay. So how much do you think that camera made that day?	coldfront (15814)
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