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Thread ID: 110666 2010-06-27 05:08:00 Don't Go To Prison If You Smoke. Trev (427) PC World Chat
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1113864 2010-06-27 21:42:00 For the record I started smoking in 1957. Next month I will be 68 if I make it that far. According to the likes of you I should be dead already.

I guess that's one way of looking at it Sweep, and from the sound of it you are a bit fatalistic about your future, but think of how many more years you might have ahead of you if you had never smoked, or if you stopped now? There is no way your health is not impaired, it just may not have reached a critical point as yet.

My father gave up smoking one day, possibly on his doctors advice, we will never know, but he just quit cold turkey. A year or so later he had a serious heart attack and he only just made it. He was in hospital for several months, and the doctors told us that had he still been smoking he would have had no show. He had another 15 good years, enough to see his grandchildren born and for them to grow old enough to remember him.

Our end is often a lot closer than we think, and smoking may not be the direct cause, but it can influence significantly the outcomes.

It is worth thinking about.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
1113865 2010-06-27 22:19:00 You seem to be forgetting that yes, the government is making a lot of money out of tobacco tax, but how much of that is spent on healthcare because of tobacco and other tobacco related costs? I think you'll find if everyone stopped smoking, the government wouldn't miss the money.

The monies collected by govt for tax supercedes the health care bill to smokers by over two fold, why dont you do some research!
SolMiester (139)
1113866 2010-06-27 22:21:00 I may be totally wrong ... but I was under the impression that it was illegal to smoke in any government building or indeed any workplace. I seem to remember that legislation was passed into law by government.

Prisons = government buildings, therefore, it should be illegal to smoke in them .... or have they been exempted because of human rights issues.

Maybe ALL prisoners should be made to smoke no less than 50 unfiltered ciggys a day and make there own coffins in work skills time !

There has been an exemption for prisons, most of the guards smoke as well.
The justice minister is probaly using the ban as an excuse to stop the dept getting sued but its good.
Anything that causes crooks in jail discomfort is fine by me, but the guards can go outside the gates for a butt I guess if they are that addicted.
What makes me sick are the **** for brains people at Health Dept building in Paramount Drive smoking outside, I have been surely tempted to knock them flat but I just give them the fingers.
prefect (6291)
1113867 2010-06-27 22:44:00 I may be totally wrong ... but I was under the impression that it was illegal to smoke in any government building or indeed any workplace.

Public areas and workplaces. Prisons (for the prisoners) are neither.
pctek (84)
1113868 2010-06-27 22:48:00 //www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10654970 prefect (6291)
1113869 2010-06-27 23:22:00 Personally I think this Smoking v Health is an inexact science.

You see, I had an Uncle that had chain smoked since he was fourteen.

His hands, teeth, lips, were almost black with nicotine stains and to see him cough in the morning was a sight to behold. He would roll a cigarette and go outside into the garden where he would grab hold of a branch of an old apple tree and he’s start coughing. What he coughed up defies description and by the time he’d finished the whole household was coughing in sympathy.

Anyway, he eventually dies of Lung Cancer aged 87 :dogeye: and the anti smoking lobby claimed him as a great example of how smoking kills you. :confused:

Now, am I to assume that had he not smoked he would be representing us in the decathlon at the next Olympics? He would only be 112. :rolleyes:
B.M. (505)
1113870 2010-06-28 00:03:00 For the record I am fatalistic about my future and as I'm not affecting anyone else I suggest they simply butt out of my life.

I don't try to insist people take up smoking so why do people try to insist *I* stop smoking?

Tobacco products are still legal.
Sweep (90)
1113871 2010-06-28 00:17:00 Because the smoking will make you sick and I have to pay for your stay in hospital thru my taxes thats why.
Lots of things are legal that will kill you.
prefect (6291)
1113872 2010-06-28 00:27:00 Because the smoking will make you sick and I have to pay for your stay in hospital thru my taxes thats why.
Lots of things are legal that will kill you.

First of all you insist that smoking WILL make me sick and secondly I spent 50 years working and smoking and paying taxes. So just why am I using your tax money for the hospital stay I haven't had yet?
Sweep (90)
1113873 2010-06-28 00:30:00 I have to pay for your stay in hospital thru my taxes


And no you taxes aren't paying the costs, the gigantic tax on the things themselves more than pays for it twice over.
pctek (84)
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