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Thread ID: 110666	2010-06-27 05:08:00	Don't Go To Prison If You Smoke.	Trev (427)	PC World Chat

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1113854	2010-06-27 10:50:00	You seem to be forgetting that yes, the government is making a lot of money out of tobacco tax, but how much of that is spent on healthcare because of tobacco and other tobacco related costs? I think you'll find if everyone stopped smoking, the government wouldn't miss the money. Because we smokers are meant to fall off our perch 14 years earlier(according to an earlier post) you will find the cost of the old age pension and the related health issues go up so I think they would miss that money.	mikebartnz (21)
1113855	2010-06-27 10:54:00	On a less serious note, you might find a drop in the crime rate when crims find out that they can't smoke in jail.:) What do you mean by can't as they seem to be able to get weed and other drugs in there.	mikebartnz (21)
1113856	2010-06-27 11:06:00	Way back in the past I lived in Wellington and Mount Crawford was a prison. They used to put apple peelings and sugar into the toilet cisterns to ferment and thereby create alcoholic drinks. Where there is a will there will be a way.	Sweep (90)
1113857	2010-06-27 12:39:00	For the record I started smoking in 1957. Next month I will be 68 if I make it that far. According to the likes of you I should be dead already. I live alone so I'm not affecting others by my secondhand smoke. I don't smoke in places it would be affecting others. Wonders how many deaths world wide are attributable to illegal drugs. Do we include drug smugglers who get executed after being caught in some countries? Your quote from Wikipedia seems like either not a direct quote or there are serious mistakes in the spelling so why should I believe any of it? Suicide by installments? Better stop a diet of fast food too then. I'd better stop driving too. It's obvious by your comments that you don't give a stuff, in fact you treat the whole thing as a big joke. It sounds as though you are proud of the fact that you have smoked for so long. Just because you have reached the not so old age of 68 does not mean that smoking is harmless. It affects different people in different ways. I have seen the effects of years of smoking and how it kills. I watched my father die of stomach and lung cancer from many years of pipe smoking. It was not pretty. Watching someone die from cancer is no joke. If you had seen what I have seen I'm certain you would give it away. But then, perhaps not. It's all a bit of a laugh, eh?:illogical	Roscoe (6288)
1113858	2010-06-27 12:52:00	I smoke. Yes, I know there's a high chance of it giving me cancer. I've seen two people that I knew quite well die from it. One guy left a wife and daughter behind. It's not nice. I could get hit by a car tomorrow. I could be paralysed for the rest of my life. I, and every other person in the world, could die at any moment, for whatever reason. Life's too short to **** round. I say, be happy while you still can. Let us eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we may die	ubergeek85 (131)
1113859	2010-06-27 13:05:00	It's obvious by your comments that you don't give a stuff, in fact you treat the whole thing as a big joke. It sounds as though you are proud of the fact that you have smoked for so long. Just because you have reached the not so old age of 68 does not mean that smoking is harmless. It affects different people in different ways. I have seen the effects of years of smoking and how it kills. I watched my father die of stomach and lung cancer from many years of pipe smoking. It was not pretty. Watching someone die from cancer is no joke. If you had seen what I have seen I'm certain you would give it away. But then, perhaps not. It's all a bit of a laugh, eh?:illogical Don't get so excited he is not treating it as a big joke he is probably just getting sick of smoking being a political football like global warming. Like if the government of the day when they banned cigarette advertising in the media hadn't been such a bunch of wallies they would also have banned gambling and alcohol advertising and the Govt actually promotes gambling through the lotteries board.	mikebartnz (21)
1113860	2010-06-27 13:17:00	Cant blame the old buggas for smoking they are too thick to change, just let them die out. Alcohol taken in moderation is actually good for you and gambling does not directly kill you. I think the justice dept is pretty onto smuggling stuff into prisons they do searches sooner or later they will catch the scum at the gates. Anyway prison cigarette smokers need a cigarette every 15 minutes or so they are going to need cartons of baccy to feed their habit. Plus they will have to sneak a few puffs away from the guards its not going to be possible to satisfy the cravings. In fact a few smuggled ciggies will be good because it will string out their addiction and make it worse for them when there is no baccy I can imagine some prisoners getting really bitchy without nicotine and it makes me feel real good.	prefect (6291)
1113861	2010-06-27 14:25:00	Alcohol taken in moderation is actually good for you and gambling does not directly kill you. It is not the alcohol drunk in moderation that is the problem. It wouldn't surprise me if alcohol was a greater drain on the resources than smoking. Police work and hospitals. How many kids go to school without a proper breakfast because of gambling , and alcohol. I have heard of people gambling their houses away as well as unopened pay packets in the days gone by when you got paid in cash. I heard over the radio a while back that NZer's spend about $13mill gambling and of that just over $10mill is on the old pokies. Those figures may not be exact but are pretty close to what I remember.	mikebartnz (21)
1113862	2010-06-27 21:09:00	Extract: "Half of all smokers now support the smoke-free law, and nearly one in four strongly supports it. O Bollocks. Propaganda. As for Sweep, yes smoking is bad for you. So is drinking. For that matter life is fatal. If smokers, aware of the risks want to smoke then the non-smokers should keep their sticky beaks out of it. Or are we all in favour of banning certain foods and so on now because of some grossly fat people too? As for diseases caused by smoking, lots of non-smokers get these diseases too, and always have done, even before the BS about 2nd hand smoke became an unproven fact.	pctek (84)
1113863	2010-06-27 21:41:00	I may be totally wrong ... but I was under the impression that it was illegal to smoke in any government building or indeed any workplace. I seem to remember that legislation was passed into law by government. Prisons = government buildings, therefore, it should be illegal to smoke in them .... or have they been exempted because of human rights issues. Maybe ALL prisoners should be made to smoke no less than 50 unfiltered ciggys a day and make there own coffins in work skills time !	SP8's (9836)
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