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Thread ID: 110882	2010-07-05 12:02:00	That iPhone problem	Billy T (70)	PC World Chat

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1116254	2010-07-05 23:11:00	Whats wrong with a nice pull out aerial like my old motorola celly flip had. It had exceptional signal but its no good after telekom binned 025. At Port Jackson in Coromandel it was only phone that worked when I was camping there 10 years ago.	prefect (6291)
1116255	2010-07-05 23:21:00	I was going to upgrade to the 4 and pass my 3GS to SWMBO, but in addition to the antenna issues, I understand the 4 is optimised for the Vodafone network anyway, so I might just stick with the 3GS and look to Android for the next upgrade. I hate chopping and changing OS's though - my investment in apps (time, as well as $$) just gets blown away... Already done it once going from Palm to Apple...	johcar (6283)
1116256	2010-07-06 00:12:00	Yeah I felt the same way prior to actually receiving my Nexus One, I didn't wanna feel as though I had wasted all that $$ on software, games etc .. And I'd spent $250-odd on apps. However, once the phone arrived, that all went out the window and to be frank I couldn't care less now (OK well maybe I care a little, coz it's a fair bit of dosh, but still).	Chilling_Silence (9)
1116257	2010-07-06 04:43:00	The whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. My Nokia if I don't hold the right way will interfere with the signal. The signal bars aren't telling the truth but the reception is still usable and there will be a software upgrade to fix that. I think it is time some people got a life.	mikebartnz (21)
1116258	2010-07-06 05:30:00	Think about it like this: All phones have that issue, even my beloved Nexus One to a small degree. It's just the *worst* ever on the iPhone4 Apple have also previously been "masking" the extent of the Cellphones signal. To a certain degree everybody knew that. They also don't show Wireless networks that are less than 15% signal strength or something along those lines I believe? People knew that, and it was fine, because it meant you weren't trying to connect to a network you were going to be disconnected from all the time. Basically by making this a "software fix", they're potentially just going to be hand-balling everything off now to AT&T by saying "Hey look if you hold your phone the right way, you've got good enough reception to make a call. We suggest you call AT&T about improving the coverage in your area". It's one possibility. The fact the iPhone Bumper can lessen the extent of the signal strength loss, yet there's been reports of an internal memo that states that staff are under no circumstances to empathize with the customer and offer a free Bumper is sad. When laptops have an issue such as a faulty battery, they are recalled by the millions. Why should the iPhone4 be any different, in that the customer must either: 1) Suffer through the possibility of poor reception when holding it in their left hand (As I do regularly, operating it with my right fingers while on speakerphone / headset) 2) Spend another 15% of the purchase price and buy something to rectify a manufacturing fault End of the day, I'm glad I waited for the announcement then spent my money otherwise. Goodbye iPhone! Can't imagine the kind of damage this has done to Apples reputation with the general populace ... I just got a nokia, and the instructions say don't hold it in particular areas of the phone otherwise it will affect the performance. So it isn't just an iphone problem. The iphone one is all about bridging the gap between the two pieces of metal, when you hold it. However if you are buying an iphone, the odds are that you will buy some form of sleeve or bumper for it anyway to protect it.	robbyp (2751)
1116259	2010-07-06 06:17:00	Do you think it would make commercial sense to wait and wait and wait until the technology is perfect before they released a machine?? If every manufacturer did that we still wouldn't have cellphones, personal computers, cars, or television - you name it! The development process is an incremental one - a manufacturer releases once they have squeezed in as many features as they think users want using the technology available and that is 'affordable' (this can be subjective) . Then time passes, technology changes/improves and makes the previous model less desirable, so the re-manufacturing process starts again . Don't be so naive (or is it that you're just anti-iPhone?) - how many iterations of Android, Linux, Windows etc have there been . It's called a life-cycle and happens to hardware AND software and just about anything else that is made by humans . eh . the flaming starts .	jonathan (15437)
1116260	2010-07-06 06:26:00	However if you are buying an iphone, the odds are that you will buy some form of sleeve or bumper for it anyway to protect it. Potentially, but you should be buying it to protect it rather than correct a manufacturing fault. As mentioned even my Nexus One does it, but the iPhone4 has to be the worst phone on the market for doing it. Ask Ars! :D	Chilling_Silence (9)
1116261	2010-07-06 06:31:00	Potentially, but you should be buying it to protect it rather than correct a manufacturing fault. As mentioned even my Nexus One does it, but the iPhone4 has to be the worst phone on the market for doing it. They should just include a free cover to go around the metal band, cost them 5c each. However I am sure they have relationships with cover makers, who would not be happy.	robbyp (2751)
1116262	2010-07-06 06:41:00	An Apple iBand will NEVER be less than $25 - low prices are for the common people who do not appreciate the finer things in life. :punk	R2x1 (4628)
1116263	2010-07-06 10:10:00	An Apple iBand will NEVER be less than $25 - low prices are for the common people who do not appreciate the finer things in life. :punk I was talking about the cost price to apple would be very low, but they may sell it for $30 US on their website. I see bumpers are one of the top selling products on their website. Must be huge margins on them.	robbyp (2751)
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