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Thread ID: 110960 2010-07-08 08:35:00 The cable to rule them all The Error Guy (14052) PC World Chat
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1117152 2010-07-08 08:35:00 www.neowin.net

Whats the betting that this generic "ethernet" will be a very "SPECIAL" ethernet that is made from premium quality material therefore costs just $460. yeah thanks bud. ill just grab my $20 crimps and a $50 roll of Cat 6 from trademe
The Error Guy (14052)
1117153 2010-07-08 09:22:00 That is moronic, I won't be buying it Agent_24 (57)
1117154 2010-07-08 09:40:00 Well you can already do USB over cat5, job I have been working on all the TV's are wired using this. So I can't see why not gary67 (56)
1117155 2010-07-08 09:45:00 Meh, so the next big thing will be yet another set of adapters to run your formerly VGA, formerly SVGA, formerly VESA, formerly HDMI monitor via a network cable... and network hubs with 20 inputs for keyboard, mouse, monitor, computer, internet, network, tv, media centre...

ooh wait, there'll have to be a mini version of these plugs too, coz the iPod owners don't want a stinking great network socket in their latest portable toys... do I detect even more adapters?

But wait, they won't want plugs - they'll expect to run their monitor via a wireless network.. and pump the internet through it as well, and the media centre, and the printer...

And then, once we're all tooled up for this gear they'll introduce networking throughout the home via the AC outlet in the wall. Oooh! More adapters and more expensive kit in order to do the same job as before... and then throw out all those hubs and network cables.
Paul.Cov (425)
1117156 2010-07-08 10:20:00 Meh, so the next big thing will be yet another set of adapters to run your formerly VGA, formerly SVGA, formerly VESA, formerly HDMI monitor via a network cable... and network hubs with 20 inputs for keyboard, mouse, monitor, computer, internet, network, tv, media centre...

ooh wait, there'll have to be a mini version of these plugs too, coz the iPod owners don't want a stinking great network socket in their latest portable toys... do I detect even more adapters?

But wait, they won't want plugs - they'll expect to run their monitor via a wireless network.. and pump the internet through it as well, and the media centre, and the printer...

And then, once we're all tooled up for this gear they'll introduce networking throughout the home via the AC outlet in the wall. Oooh! More adapters and more expensive kit in order to do the same job as before... and then throw out all those hubs and network cables.

I do believe Sony has wireless HDMI, not sure if its released yet.
plod (107)
1117157 2010-07-08 10:48:00 60ghz HD wireless. range, 50m its like hugely powerful (add enough power, it will kill you) bluetooth. you could get the sweetest burns by modding the firmware and setting the PEP to say 60w? The Error Guy (14052)
1117158 2010-07-08 11:24:00 Looks good, but I wonder how many people will plug it into their routers and computers 'because it fit', and then wonder why the magic smoke escaped.

Such is the danger of PoE. But then again, they only mentioned Cat5e/6 cable, nothing on the connectors.

IMO the next spec will just be software protocols, on top of TCP/IP, with everything else taken care of by bog-standard ethernet hardware. With a fancy name though.
ubergeek85 (131)
1117159 2010-07-08 11:24:00 Yeah I think I'd rather not turn my house into a microwave oven.

Ethernet cabling all the way....
Agent_24 (57)
1117160 2010-07-08 12:03:00 Looks good, but I wonder how many people will plug it into their routers and computers 'because it fit', and then wonder why the magic smoke escaped.

Such is the danger of PoE.PoE doesn't quite work that way - the device you plug it into has to actually ask for power, before it gets fed anything meaningful. You can quite happily plug a cable from a PoE supply to into your PC (or any other ethernet device) without any risk of damaging it (this does of course assume that the PoE supply complies with standards and isn't doing something crazy like shorting a live current to the ethernet port).

See here (en.wikipedia.org er_2_LLDP) for more info.
Erayd (23)
1117161 2010-07-08 12:12:00 PoE doesn't quite work that way

Ahh, thanks for that. All the PoE stuff I've seen is DIY, and just sending it straight down the cable.
ubergeek85 (131)
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