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| Thread ID: 111057 | 2010-07-12 03:09:00 | Running 3-core electrical cable - DIY | nofam (9009) | PC World Chat |
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| 1118120 | 2010-07-13 02:15:00 | Knowing where Nofam works getting good prices is a given and not a problem Indeed - highly classified information though, that is. ;) |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 1118121 | 2010-07-13 02:49:00 | And don't be too sure about how cheap I can get cable and fittings; you'd probably be surprised (read disgusted) with the markup that goes on such things. I wouldn't be surprised, I have the same purchasing privileges, and have an extensive background in the electrcal industry. Forewarned as you have been, don't you be surprised if you get stuck in and later find your property is uninsurable, your cover cancelled, or your mortgage voided by the Bank if you can't get a sign off on the work because you did it yourself and an electrician won't take the rap for you. I'm serious here, I spent years on the inside of the regulatory and enforcement regimes and I've seen some very sorry situations. You can take DIY chances with just about anything except electrical work and sanitary plumbing. With those two, being knee-deep in brown custard is only one phone call or txt away. If you later sell and your involvement in illegal wiring is uncovered, it will come back to haunt you, and you won't escape liability no matter how hard you wriggle. The archive of this thread alone will contain enough to hang you. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1118122 | 2010-07-13 02:53:00 | Thanks Billy & others - certainly interesting to get another point of view; I've been told previously by the electrical firm that I deal with that I would be fine to run the cable . . . . . clearly they're crediting me with too much intelligence to get it right . ;) And don't be too sure about how cheap I can get cable and fittings; you'd probably be surprised (read disgusted) with the markup that goes on such things . if its something simple and you run the cable i'm sure it will not be a problem . the problems really come in when you have to do the design work ie how many lights or power points off a circuit, godforbid if your house is wired 2 or 3 phase! or things like using wrong size cable . local sparky found a house someone had wired with trurip (?) (cheap no colours, no sheath 3 core cable) . had to rip out the whole lot and rewire . the amount of time saved is probably not as much as you think . sparkys have all the gear and tricks to do all the difficult stuff . and yes the mark up is big . its the biggest profit margin in the building industry . thats why there is tons of sparkys and a lot have only one thing on their mind . . . . . . how to make more $$$ . |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1118123 | 2010-07-13 03:30:00 | I wouldn't be surprised, I have the same purchasing privileges, and have an extensive background in the electrcal industry. Forewarned as you have been, don't you be surprised if you get stuck in and later find your property is uninsurable, your cover cancelled, or your mortgage voided by the Bank if you can't get a sign off on the work because you did it yourself and an electrician won't take the rap for you. I'm serious here, I spent years on the inside of the regulatory and enforcement regimes and I've seen some very sorry situations. You can take DIY chances with just about anything except electrical work and sanitary plumbing. With those two, being knee-deep in brown custard is only one phone call or txt away. If you later sell and your involvement in illegal wiring is uncovered, it will come back to haunt you, and you won't escape liability no matter how hard you wriggle. The archive of this thread alone will contain enough to hang you. Cheers Billy 8-{) No disrespect intended to your good self Billy - I was after advice, and advice I have got. Will investigate taking a some annual leave, and playing sparky's boy for the day. I can make a mean bacon butty for lunch, so perhaps this will be enough to get me some discount? Will see how this plays out. :thumbs: |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 1118124 | 2010-07-13 03:40:00 | PS, is the cable in the roof black (TRS rubber) or TPS (white) | Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1118125 | 2010-07-13 04:03:00 | PS, is the cable in the roof black (TRS rubber) or TPS (white) A mixture, but the wiring I found when stripping the room is all black - have been advised not to touch this when live, or kneel on any in the roofspace as the insulation breaks down badly over time? |
nofam (9009) | ||
| 1118126 | 2010-07-13 04:29:00 | Correct, its rubber and does indeed break down over time, farking horrible stuffs. | Alex B (15479) | ||
| 1118127 | 2010-07-13 04:52:00 | It will be faster and cheaper to get an electrician, besides which, the trade can buy their cables and fittings at prices way below what you can get it for, so your material costs will be higher as well. Just because an electrician gets trade prices doesnt mean he will pass that on to the job. I have never heard of that, unless they are family |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
| 1118128 | 2010-07-13 06:12:00 | ... I agree totally with just acting as the sparkies goffer. Good luck getting a sparky to agree to that! |
pine-o-cleen (2955) | ||
| 1118129 | 2010-07-13 08:58:00 | Good luck getting a sparky to agree to that! goffer = an alert and energetic person I don't see why it should be a problem if choosing the right sparky. |
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