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Thread ID: 147696	2019-03-13 03:21:00	How to Build a Gate	piroska (17583)	PC World Chat

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1458930	2019-03-13 19:54:00	[QUOTE=allblack;1286923 It'll become a place of gate worship, you'll need to visit. We can hold candles and photos of our gates and sing songs.[/QUOTE] :lol::lol::lol:	piroska (17583)
1458931	2019-03-13 20:04:00	I have to say that, after reading your description of the whole gate-building process, I was expecting a real dog's breakfast at the end of it. However, I was pleasantly surprised by your photos - not a bad job at all! Is this a prelude to the DIY bug getting you & therefore we should expect more construction anecdotes?	MushHead (10626)
1458932	2019-03-13 20:38:00	The simplest way to brace is to add a 3rd rail between the other two but running at an angle from the bottom of one end to the top of the other, and nail it to every picket it passes. Because it's such a long narrow gate though It might not be as effective due to the angle. I'd be tempted to go a bit fancier (but then my dad is a builder and I grew up using his tools) and build a frame with an inverted "V" in the middle. Something like |/|\| between the top and bottom rails. Because it's a small light gate you can probably get away with fairly small timber, maybe 50x50. Cutting the angles is the hardest part. But then if it works ok as is with the wheel taking the weight you could just use it as is and not worry about it, bracing makes it rigid and self supporting which is less of an issue with a wheel.	dugimodo (138)
1458933	2019-03-13 21:23:00	The wheel needs to be directly under the gate or at the end of it but that is often not possible so you have to put a wheel on either side to avoid the bending moment, unfortunately the gate will then have to be on a level piece of ground so that each wheel is taking half the load. If the slope gradient is consistent you could mount one wheel slightly higher than the downslope one. Adding bracing will probably complicate things and make the gate rigid and it looks to me like it has to have the ability to move up or down as the wheel/wheels follow the slope.	zqwerty (97)
1458934	2019-03-13 22:27:00	What I like about your gate is that it is about as light in weight as could be. A house we lived in had a gate between the garage wall and the end post of a timber fence. There was a wheel at the free end of the gate, which was build like the proverbial brick dunny. I assume the previous owners who installed it only wanted a gate to keep their toddler on the section, but it was built heavy enough to keep Russian tanks out rather than a toddler in. The gate was open one day, and the norwester caught it (yes, North Canterbury location) and slammed it shut so hard that the momentum smashed the 4x1 board that it closed against, ripping the board off the brick wall of the garage (in the process bending the masonry screws and tearing them out of the bricks). This also tore chunks out of the bricks where the masonry screws had been. An unsightly mess that could have been avoided had the fence been a sensible design. For what it is worth, I think the wheel needs to be at the far end of the gate away from the hinges, and I doubt that bracing will improve what you already have. Keep the weight down!!	John H (8)
1458935	2019-03-13 23:08:00	So how do we brace it? And where should the wheel be? We could add another wheel but it can't go at end of gate it has to be one side or other. Remember we are not builders......husband has many DIY skills but not building. You will need two diagonal braces. The first goes from the bottom hinge corner to the midpoint of the top rail. Angle cut to make a nice join and put two nails through each paling (as well as nailing into the top and bottom rails) to minimise the sagging over time. The second brace goes from the bottom rail at midpoint to the top end of the gate. The braces will make the gate more rigid and lessen the sagging which will occur and put more weight onto the wheel. Google some images of braced gates and doors to get the general idea.	user (1404)
1458936	2019-03-13 23:25:00	Er well. Thanks for the advice. Maybe not....except possibly a second wheel other side. Sounds like too much for us and also the A)Fence along front is half rotten B)Gate is too SO long before warping, sagging or the earthquake and subsequent tsunami that wipes it all out, it will fall apart. And then I thought we'd grow a hedge instead. Gate? Well maybe we can find a used already assembled thing and someone will take pity and attach it for us. Or maybe we'll be dead by then anyway from stress and exhaustion (or natural disasters) and it becomes someone elses problem. We're not that good, we expected a dogs breakfast too. Almost was. You should have seen it the first time round. Or perhaps not...better no-one saw that effort. More DIY? We did a fair bit at Ranui, mortared over a broken brick rubble path instead of a proper concrete replacement. Amended a fence - wood - with more panels made from old fence timber to make it higher, now that was er...a crude job. Still, paint improved it a lot. Paint makes everything look better. And it solved the problem with a cost of $0. We replaced the steps, although after we built them, and found we couldn't lift it off the garage floor even a foot, we had to get a guy round to move and install them. And other assorted forced to do it by lack of money things. Rather stick to the gardening actually. Hoping we don't have to do anything else involving building at least. Which reminds me, must go paint the post and patched bits so it looks white and pretty. Or prettier at least. Then we can pretend it was always like that and nothing to do with us. LOL.	piroska (17583)
1458937	2019-03-13 23:26:00	Fun? No it sure wasn't fun. No, I did not say it was fun, in fact for an accountant, it definitely wasn't fun, hands were needed in those days for signing cheques.	Lurking (218)
1458938	2019-03-15 05:00:00	Top effort . I recently fixed a gate's attachment to a post which is attached to the house . Used three huge bolts and the job will be the stuff of legends after the next Magnitude 9 and all that's left standing in Welly will be my gate . It'll become a place of gate worship, you'll need to visit . We can hold candles and photos of our gates and sing songs . :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:	beetle (243)
1458939	2019-03-15 20:55:00	Looks better than I expected from the commentary. Have you considered an electric opening and closing system? (Runs for cover)	Richard (739)
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