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Thread ID: 111251	2010-07-19 23:36:00	There is a gap in the NZ DVD market - tramping DVDs	ssssss (2100)	PC World Chat

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1120407	2010-07-19 23:36:00	I feel there is a demand for DVD makers to do films on different tramping tracks. They could do aerial shots of a track, and Map shots. Then they could take cameras along and show the views along the way. Camping sites, huts, wildlife etc. History if any. The BBC has done "Wainright Walks" by Julia Badbury, - on walks in Britain. I liked those, and I would like to see someone do Walks in NZ.	ssssss (2100)
1120408	2010-07-20 01:31:00	It is a thought, but I have a nagging feeling there could be downsides. It could encourage more "White Reebock" tourists, resulting in yet even more demand for facilities, bigger and more huts and lodges, tracks to be manicured, etc with a corresponding drain on DOC funds which should be going to conservation. There has been a significant decrease in bushcraft/tramping skills in more recent years, with reliance on cell phones and GPS, (recent case when two trampers ? had to be lifted out because their GPS packed up :), reliance on reaching a hut (the two who died on the Southern Crossing last year), and reliance on following marked tracks. ) I feel such DVDs could maybe contribute to tramping incidents as we have seen on the Tongariro Crossing with very badly equipped overseas inexperienced "walkers". On the other hand it is a great idea, I would love to see them, but would I be able to afford them ? :) Maybe only if overseas tourists buy them in large numbers thus bringing the cost down :rolleyes:	Terry Porritt (14)
1120409	2010-07-20 01:41:00	Thats it Terry, NZ is for you and your mates.	Metla (12)
1120410	2010-07-20 03:24:00	Not a bad idea. Contrary to Terry's thoughts, my thought is that if they are realistic enough they might discourage some of the dorks that go into the wilds thinking it is a "walk in the park" (Hagley Park that is). It can't make the situation at the Tongariro Crossing any worse than it has been for decades - 20+ years ago I met European walkers trying to cross in a southerly storm (with a couple of inches of ice on the downwind side of the marker poles). These idiots were wearing thin nylon parkas and pants, and no decent warm clothes. When I met them, they were trying to retreat - some bleeding and battered; all on the edge of hypothermia. Well made DVDs might also show some of the dorks I have met in the hills that our huts are self catering - i.e. you carry your own tucker in and your rubbish out. Some overseas trampers expect there will be a shop at their destination, or a warden cooking dinner for you at the hut (e.g. Welcome Flats) like there is in many places overseas (e.g. America and the European Alps). They get in there and then become a burden on the trampers who have to share their food with them. Many of our tracks and huts have a fantastic history behind them, and that would be great on DVD. The Copland Pass for example - some of the crossings in the old days put our present day trampers to shame (the women Hermitage guests crossing wearing full skirts etc; no crampons and ice axes, with the guides chopping bucket size steps for hours).	John H (8)
1120411	2010-07-20 03:33:00	I would definitely be interested, I like the idea of tramping but don't know what I'm in for. A DVD showing the locations, landscape, routes, and how to prepare would be excellent, I'd definitely buy it. I have taken a mental note of numerous hour to half-day walks I'll tackle with my kids as they get a bit older.	Metla (12)
1120412	2010-07-20 03:37:00	Have a look at Man vs Wild on Prime sometime. :-) Also this book taught me rather a lot somewhat earlier. www.amazon.com I don't have my copy anymore.	Snorkbox (15764)
1120413	2010-07-20 04:11:00	(snip) I have taken a mental note of numerous hour to half-day walks I'll tackle with my kids as they get a bit older. Best thing I ever did with my son and older daughter. I could never get my youngest out with me unfortunately, although when she was 3 we did a day walk along the Wairarapa Coast from Cape Terawhiti and she went for hours without having to be carried. We got to a point where my son and I were doing 4 day trips in the Urewera and Kaimanawa Ranges. In turn, he has just taken his daughter out for her first tramp, and she had a brilliant time (she is 9). Overnight trip to a hut a couple of hours in from the carpark. You might scoff at this comment, but tramping clubs can be great (depending upon the nature of the membership) to get things started. They often have a family section, and take carefully graduated trips so that kids are not put off by the experience. Two comments if you do try a walk with young kids - 1. they go like a bloody train and then without warning they run out of puff and you can get into trouble because there is nothing left in the tank. 2. activities like toasting marshmallows over a driftwood fire on the beach (or whatever you like to snack on) are a great opportunity to re-charge batteries - our kids still do stuff like that with their kids.	John H (8)
1120414	2010-07-20 04:36:00	"we did a day walk along the Wairarapa Coast from Cape Terawhiti" That is one hell of a walk. Is it possible you started from Cape Palliser? From Cape Terawhiti to Island Bay is about 14 miles.	Snorkbox (15764)
1120415	2010-07-20 04:52:00	Oops, sorry . I have been away from Wgtn for too long and got my Capes mixed . I should have said Cape Turakirae . We parked the car at the end of the Coast Rd at the boundary of the station owned by the Riddiford family and walked towards Cape Turakirae and back . Memory is hazy about how far we got along the Coast, but I am pretty sure we got to the raised terraces by the Cape . I recall being staggered about how far a three year old could walk - on a shingle track too . Apologies - that would have been a good walk from Cape Terawhiti to the Wairarapa . A bit damp too if we had crossed at the Wellington Heads . . .	John H (8)
1120416	2010-07-20 04:54:00	I have taken the kids on a few walks so far, the oldest is 6 and quite capable and adventurous, The younger is nearly 3, heavy as a sack of cement, and when he has had enough,just stops and wants to be carried. Still,what we have seen so far in regards to waterfalls, caves, streams,rivers and cliffs has been well worth the effort.	Metla (12)
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