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Thread ID: 111236 2010-07-19 06:19:00 Islam is peace personified. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1120157 2010-07-21 04:31:00 (snip)All religion should be banned.

I'm sure you know pctek that this has been tried by all colours of the political spectrum from fascists to communists. All failed in the attempt. Us stupid evil human beans seem to have a pathetic need to believe in something other than ourselves, no matter how far-fetched, loony, or dysfunctional the philosophy seems to be. I support your sentiment, but doubt its effectiveness.
John H (8)
1120158 2010-07-21 04:35:00 they were ALL nasty.

Read about what the 1st crusaders did at anitoch (sic).
(snip)

I have never understood why they chose Crusaders for the name of a rugby franchise. I suppose it is because the people who did only know the "Christian" (i.e. papist's) side of crusader history and think they can reflect in the "glory" of a bunch of murdering thieves and rapists... When will we ever learn?
John H (8)
1120159 2010-07-21 04:45:00 they were ALL nasty.

Read about what the 1st crusaders did at anitoch.

"all religous organisations should be banned".:D

religon is not the problem, its the bumholes who organise it it, who are.

Religion is a "tool"

Probably every major war ever fought in Human history boils down to Land and resource $$ control, which also includes what the West now calls terrorism.

Religion (Islam,Christianity) is used to manipulate new recruits into fighting fake causes. Most people will not die to make someone else more wealthy, but they will die if they believe its for there country or religion.
Battleneter2 (9361)
1120160 2010-07-21 11:51:00 Religion is a "tool"

Probably every major war ever fought in Human history boils down to Land and resource $$ control, which also includes what the West now calls terrorism.

Religion (Islam,Christianity) is used to manipulate new recruits into fighting fake causes. Most people will not die to make someone else more wealthy, but they will die if they believe its for there country or religion.

"Religion is a "tool""

frequently used as, yes.

"Probably every major war ever fought in Human history boils down to Land and resource $$ control, "

most, yes.

"which also includes what the West now calls terrorism."

????

you can't put osamas lot, and many of the other of the muslim lunies in that statment. They are about something other than resources, so are much much more dangerous.

:)
angry (15305)
1120161 2010-07-24 22:01:00 FFWD to 4.00 minutes on this video (www.youtube.com), or watch the entire thing.

He makes a lot of sense and gets straight to the point.

Of course it is not just Muslims we need to be concerned with, but also the 'Christian Taliban' as these crazy fundamentalists have infected the American military big time along with political systems from school boards on up to Capital Hill in Washington DC.
Strommer (42)
1120162 2010-07-24 22:28:00 I have never understood why they chose Crusaders for the name of a rugby franchise. I suppose it is because the people who did only know the "Christian" (i.e. papist's) side of crusader history and think they can reflect in the "glory" of a bunch of murdering thieves and rapists... When will we ever learn?

I agree about these comments about the crusaders. What right did they think they had to invade the Middle East.
Any way except for Constantinople they had an epic fail they came second in the crusades and the muslims came first.
I agree with comments about right wing Christian fundamentalist in USA they are dangerous for free speech and secular people.
prefect (6291)
1120163 2010-07-25 11:33:00 I agree about these comments about the crusaders. What right did they think they had to invade the Middle East.
Any way except for Constantinople they had an epic fail they came second in the crusades and the muslims came first.
I agree with comments about right wing Christian fundamentalist in USA they are dangerous for free speech and secular people.

go back and read again (not just here, this is a very complex and frequently emotive topic area.),

some VERY stupid and arrogant muslims decided they would prevent all christian pilgrims from visiting the Holy land that they (the muslims) had taken by force.

that's how you start war's, that's how this 900 + year crap fight started.

locking people out of their religous shrines = right to force entry, for any religeon, as far as the religous org is concerned.

Muslims control of, sicily, southern spain, malta, cyprus, and others was permantly removed. cristian forces held sawy in the levant for hundreds of years, the crusader period spans 300 + years.

end result = unseteled draw.

the far right of ANY religous org is dangerous, full stop.
angry (15305)
1120164 2010-07-25 19:45:00 you can't put osamas lot, and many of the other of the muslim lunies in that statment. They are about something other than resources, so are much much more dangerous.

Their ultimate ambition is to drive the Americans out of the Middle East - by any means.

= land and religion as 2 factors.

Ken
kenj (9738)
1120165 2010-07-26 02:00:00 Their ultimate ambition is to drive the Americans out of the Middle East - by any means.

= land and religion as 2 factors.

Ken

I think their ultimate ambition would = 0 Americans left alive full stop?? not just leaving the middle east
Gobe1 (6290)
1120166 2010-07-26 07:49:00 "Their ultimate ambition is to drive the Americans out of the Middle East - by any means.

= land and religion as 2 factors.

Ken"

"I think their ultimate ambition would = 0 Americans left alive full stop?? not just leaving the middle east gobe1"

As has been stated before they want a lot more than that, they want planet taleban where everyone prays 5 times a day, and all women are: barefoot, pregnant, and can not read or write.

That is why they must be eliminated.
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angry (15305)
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