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Thread ID: 111311	2010-07-22 01:16:00	Cyclists	prefect (6291)	PC World Chat

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1121178	2010-07-22 01:16:00	www.nzherald.co.nz Yesterday I was behind a lycra clad cyclist on a racing bike who went through 3 sets of red lights: Makora road/ NW offramp, Makora/Royal road, Royal Road and Moire Road. Each time he went through I air horned him and he gave me the fingers. It took a lot of self control not to just smash him into the bullbars on my breakdown truck.	prefect (6291)
1121179	2010-07-22 01:27:00	Yep, lots of dickheads on wheels. Two and four and more wheels. Nothing changes. I was on Tamaki Drive on Saturday morning a couple of weeks ago, riding from St Heliers (about 7.00am) with a small group. We had a green light at Patteson Ave and a dickhead cyclist crashed the red out of Patteson Ave and turned towards St Heliers right in front of us. Naturally he got yelled at by our group - lots of words that were only four letters long too - many containing the letter 'k'! The same day I saw another idiot riding a 'cruiser' type bike on the footpath with no helmet. He was obviously too cool for a helmet. See that all the time in town too. :groan: EDIT: I commend you on your restraint, prefect. Be happy in the knowledge that he will eventually become a statistic.	johcar (6283)
1121180	2010-07-22 01:44:00	www.nzherald.co.nz Yesterday I was behind a lycra clad cyclist on a racing bike who went through 3 sets of red lights: Makora road/ NW offramp, Makora/Royal road, Royal Road and Moire Road. Each time he went through I air horned him and he gave me the fingers. It took a lot of self control not to just smash him into the bullbars on my breakdown truck. no no no. All bike accidents are allways caused by cars. Bike riders are honest law abiding citizens with complete respect for road rules. Lets be honest, cycling is a lifestyle choice & dangerous-doesnt matter who is to blame its still dangerous, in a steel vs flesh sort of way. No other sport/pastime is allowed use of roads for playing on 24/7. Even off the road its dangerous, just how many ambulance trips to Woodhill MTN bike park each weekend?	1101 (13337)
1121181	2010-07-22 01:48:00	Prefect, Did you follow the cyclist through all these red lights?	Snorkbox (15764)
1121182	2010-07-22 01:55:00	Me, In the diesel high gear low revs then floor it, good for tailgating convertibles to.(a block air filter helps to) This vid may put a small smile your face www.youtube.com	rebels181 (14841)
1121183	2010-07-22 01:57:00	Here we go again . Yes, some cyclists ride bikes to get fit and stay healthy - that is a lifestyle choice (which can have positive long-term spin-offs for the health system - if they aren't knocked off their bikes by errant motorists) . Some cyclists choose to ride bikes as a means of getting to and from work - that may be a lifestyle choice, but it may be a financial consideration too . Some cyclists are kids - riding to school or for enjoyment - or perhaps athletes-in-training . Some cyclists are serious athletes who do very well representing NZ at top levels (Julian Dean is doing pretty good things in the Tour de France at the moment - there are many other examples other than Julian) - many train on NZ roads (out of necessity) . All of the above have one thing in common . Their right to use the road is enshrined in NZ law . Irrespective of intolerant motorists' opinions . However that does not exclude cyclists from having to obey the same rules as other vehicles on the roads . It comes down to enforcement - not only for cyclists, but motorists that I see doing stupid things every day on our roads .	johcar (6283)
1121184	2010-07-22 02:50:00	Prefect, Did you follow the cyclist through all these red lights? No as it is up hill I caught up with him before each set of lights. Its total arrogance really got my blood boiling.	prefect (6291)
1121185	2010-07-22 03:17:00	hook turns? do we have hook turns in NZ or is the author reading aussie rules? also i think (will have to check) that must ride in single-file if being passed by another vehicle. most of its common sense, buggered if i want to be out riding in the middle of the road with cars passing squeezing in-between me and oncoming cars. i think they are quite right about cyclists. they have a bad attitude of "i'm a cyclist i can do what i like" and "i can put myself in danger because you can't hit me without killing me and then you will be in trouble, therefore i can do what i like and its your fault." i've very nearly wiped out a whole heaps of cyclists one day, the idiots where having a race. no signs, no support vehicles, nothing. so i came around a corner in the windy road to find the road blocked by cyclists. not far off ploughing through 40 cyclists. the silly thing is i used to ride a bike just about everywhere including to work and you always got out of the way of traffic. it was just common sense.	tweak'e (69)
1121186	2010-07-22 03:36:00	Hook turns were made legal in the road rules changes that occurred last November . Most people still don't know what they are . I don't think there is anywhere that says cyclists MUST ride single file - but as you say, in many situations, it's just plain common sense (unfortunately, as we know, common sense isn't that common) . Unfortunately, also in many situations, it is just plain dangerous for a cyclist to ride anywhere but the middle of the lane - for instance, passing a line of parked cars on a 'normal' suburban road where there is a lot of activity around those parked cars (people getting out of them, often opening doors without looking back), or to avoid other hazards - like pedestrians, broken glass and potholes - many hazards aren't immediately apparent to vehicles coming up from behind . Most cyclists are more than aware than there are vehicles approaching from behind, but many have to make a judgement call: get knocked off by an opening door (nasty injuries result), ride through broken glass and have to replace two tyres at the cost of around $100 each, or travel in the middle of the road and ride safely and be visible to traffic . A sensible cyclist would typically move left as soon as practicably possible in this situation . Please don't lump all cyclists into the generalist "arrogant bastards" group . There are a lot of idiot cyclists, as I have mentioned in other threads, but equally there are many idiot drivers . I think (hope) you would be pleasantly surprised travelling behind our group, who are not perfect (nor do we claim to be), but we do try to ride with other road users in mind .	johcar (6283)
1121187	2010-07-22 03:56:00	hook turns? do we have hook turns in NZ or is the author reading aussie rules? also i think (will have to check) that must ride in single-file if being passed by another vehicle . most of its common sense, buggered if i want to be out riding in the middle of the road with cars passing squeezing in-between me and oncoming cars . The hook turn for cyclists does exist but it's just common sense pulling over to the left of the waiting cars rather than the Australian hook turn where cars pull up in front of the waiting queue . All vehicles are subject to the following rule "If a driver's speed, when driving, is such as to impede the normal and reasonable flow of traffic, that driver must, as soon as is reasonably practicable, move the vehicle as far as practicable to the left side of the roadway when this is necessary to allow following traffic to pass . " IANAL but I'd read that as if you can't ride side by side and still leave room for passing you have to pull in when there's following traffic . It comes down to " practicable" . Sometimes the extreme left is covered in broken glass or pot holes or the road is just too narrow .	PaulD (232)
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