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| Thread ID: 111311 | 2010-07-22 01:16:00 | Cyclists | prefect (6291) | PC World Chat |
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| 1121188 | 2010-07-22 04:36:00 | Yesterday I was behind a lycra clad cyclist on a racing bike who went through 3 sets of red lights:. It took a lot of self control not to just smash him into the bullbars on my breakdown truck. Why? He's an idiot and someone will come through the other intersection and kill him, but why should it bother you? |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1121189 | 2010-07-22 04:55:00 | Some cyclists are serious athletes who do very well representing NZ at top levels ..... many train on NZ roads (out of necessity). the same argument can be used with street skateboarders, why cant they have the same road rights. Why not allow street luge on the roads.Nice surface for basketball, street soccer. But I understand what you're saying, Im just sick of all the fingerpointing at drivers as being the cause of all the cyclists road issues. Again, steel vs flesh, bikes are just easier to NOT see so there has to be some acknowledgment from cyclists thats its a dangerous activity & thats their choice. Which is why I choose an exercycle over a roadbike. :-) |
1101 (13337) | ||
| 1121190 | 2010-07-22 05:19:00 | (snip) most of its common sense, buggered if i want to be out riding in the middle of the road with cars passing squeezing in-between me and oncoming cars. (snip) There are exceptions to this. I used to ride to work in Wgtn from above Karori Park down to the city. On the way home up Glenmore Street there is a tight left hand turn into a tunnel through to Karori. I nearly got smeared like a bug into the gutter by a trolley bus that didn't allow enough space for turning around the outside of me, and later once again got squashed up against the tunnel wall by a trolley bus trying to pass me in the tunnel with oncoming traffic in the other lane. From those experiences I learned to ride smack in the middle of my lane up to and inside the tunnel instead of trying to ride as close as possible to the left. No-one tried to pass me again until I was through the tunnel and relatively safe. Since then, on the bike I always assess situations when it is best to stay to the left and other times when it is best to hold up the traffic and ride in the middle of the lane. |
John H (8) | ||
| 1121191 | 2010-07-22 05:22:00 | I do acknowledge it's a dangerous activity - I have the scars and titanium plates and screws to prove it!! All from motorists not seeing me - not the other way around. But just because it's a dangerous activity doesn't remove the onus from drivers to be aware of ALL road users, including cyclists. Rugby is dangerous too - and I understand that is a reasonably popular sport in NZ too... Not sure that long boarding / street luge is a sport that has an international body to administer it and has national representatives competing at an international level. Basketball and soccer have specialist sports grounds already, which people prefer to use - for good reason. Cycling is the second biggest sport in the world behind that funny game they just had a World Cup for in South Africa... It gets a hell of a lot more respect in other countries. We even had a national cycling rep pull out of the team a week or so ago because he wasn't able to perform to his previous best - according to the news he was badly injured "after he collided with a car". Yeah, right, a professional road cyclist who didn't see a car! When I did a defensive driving course all those years ago (35?), the main thing I took away with me was "Drive like everyone else on the road is incompetent". Seems to be common sense, especially in the last ten years or so. Cyclists are inherently unstable, being on two wheels - just give them a bit of room. If they can whack your vehicle when you're passing them, then you're too damn close.... |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 1121192 | 2010-07-22 05:37:00 | Why? He's an idiot and someone will come through the other intersection and kill him, but why should it bother you? Thats a so typical woman reply: logical, unemotional, sensible, proper etc. But I am not controlled by the calming effects of estrogen, I just want to smash him up. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1121193 | 2010-07-22 06:39:00 | Funnily enough I just had an experience with some mega a*hole about an hour ago . The little pansy a**hole was driving in the middle of the left lane on a busy road, like the bastard owned the road - oh wait there was a cycling lane there that he just didn't want to use . 4 cars passed by going into the right lane when someone let them through . When I came up to him, I beeped at him to move over - he didn't someone on the other lane let me through . . . (this is over 2km strech of busy road where he was pedaling at 20 and holding up everyone in the lane) He caught up to me at the lights staring at me with some hellish fury . . . Like he was somehow justified to take up a lane and i'm a crazed maniac for beeping . . . I get it if there is no space, but there was a damn cycling lane that people have no problem using day in day out, except this pansy prick . . . . and then proceeded to drive through a red light, at the next light same story - he runs through them . . . Seriously . . . I hope that ashat gets crushed, people like him need a lesson . Prefect, that vid did put a smile on my face :) |
Cato (6936) | ||
| 1121194 | 2010-07-22 06:45:00 | There are exceptions to this...... absolutly right, sometimes you have to drive/ride agresive to stop the other drivers doing something stupid, ie block them rather than open the door. eg truck the other day that was going a bit slow up the hill, kindly pulls to the left, unfortunately that opens the door and the following car takes advantage by overtaking over double yellow lines with passing lanes ending on the other side of the road, on top of a hill. nice "favour" by the trucky was lucky not to get someone killed. its just what i see on the road with bikes is usually a lot of riders who deliberately put themselves in harms way just to p*ss off everyone else. you watch the tourists cycling, all single file, on the shoulder. kiwis are two abreast, neither riding on the shoulder and when there's a big shoulder they can pull onto and let traffic past do they use it ??? no, they stay out in traffic then wine and complain when they get run off the road. i'm seriously surprised that there is not cyclists getting killed every day. |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1121195 | 2010-07-22 07:14:00 | its just what i see on the road with bikes is usually a lot of riders who deliberately put themselves in harms way just to p*ss off everyone else. Piss them off? Car versus bike - car wins. Rider dead or badly injured. Suicide isn't actually illegal. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1121196 | 2010-07-22 07:52:00 | Piss them off? Car versus bike - car wins . Rider dead or badly injured . Suicide isn't actually illegal . yes but they know most people will try to avoid them and if they are hit "its the car drivers fault" . yes its suicidal and completely stupid, but try telling them that . then again i've had a guy that walked out in front of traffic carrying a baby as a shield . :mad: |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1121197 | 2010-07-22 22:35:00 | Piss them off? Car versus bike - car wins . Rider dead or badly injured . Suicide isn't actually illegal . Cars win 100% of the time in that kind of altercation . There are no cyclists who believe otherwise . There would be very very few cyclists who ride to deliberately 'piss off' motorists (they would spend a lot of time in hospital if they did) . The aggro is often caused by cyclists riding assertively (not aggressively, tweak'e - only TdF riders rider aggressively, and that's in controlled circumstances where the road is closed) where a motorist can't see or understand why the cyclist is riding in that manner . As stated above, a cyclist has a much better view of the hazards he is riding through than a following motorist . Cycle lanes are often a joke - because cars typically stay out of them (thank you), all the crap that falls onto the road that normally gets swept into the gutter by passing vehicles, gets swept instead into the cycle lane: broken glass, nails, wire, bits of wood, wheel nuts, cans - you name it . That's why you often see cyclists apparently ignoring the marked cycle lane - the damn council isn't sweeping the road often enough! Interestingly, when I suggested to the Auckland City Council at the Tamaki Drive Forum that they sweep Tamaki Drive more often (to help keep the bikes as far to the left as possible, and thus giving bikes less of an excuse to ride 'wide'), the response was that Tamaki Drive is one of the most regularly swept streets in Auckland - at once a week!!! Originally I thought the broken glass on the road we encountered on Saturday mornings was from hoons from Friday night, but riding earlier recently I have discovered that the glass is a Saturday morning phenomenon - not there at 6 . 30am, but appears by 8 . 00am . And in some situations, the aggro is caused by a cyclist riding without considering the traffic around him (and yes, it's usually a 'him'!!!) . Serious cyclists hate these idiots as much as non-cyclist motorists - because they give all of us a bad name . |
johcar (6283) | ||
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