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Thread ID: 111556 2010-08-02 03:19:00 The foreshore,who's is it? Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1123894 2010-08-03 12:48:00 Just a couple of comments:
a. a generation is generally regarded as 30 years in historical terms, not 45 (that reduces the time to about 1380 years). However, remember that many people in a whakapapa would have come to a young and rather sticky end. I think that 30 years represented someone in old age, judging by remains dug up from pre colonisation sites, and many ancestors would have died a lot younger than that.
b. you may be right about the age of the oldest discovered midden in NZ, but a lot of Māori whakapapa claim to go back beyond migration times, to their Hawaiiki (sp?) origins.

Someone earlier mentioned that Māori did not have a written language. True, but they had/have a strong oral tradition, and many whakapapa were recited using what we would call an aide memoire - in the form of a carved staff. As I understand it oral traditions were drummed into promising kids as part of their education, so they were trained from an early age in memorising and reciting their whakapapa. Have a look here if you are interested: www.britishmuseum.org

I would like to see you argue with Dr Sharples about this on a marae when he was carrying a taiaha!

"I would like to see you argue with Dr Sharples about this on a marae when he was carrying a taiaha!"

Standard MAORI answer, when you cant sustain your argument, or get your way, immediatly resort to violence.
angry (15305)
1123895 2010-08-03 17:35:00 "I would like to see you argue with Dr Sharples about this on a marae when he was carrying a taiaha!"

Standard MAORI answer, when you cant sustain your argument, or get your way, immediatly resort to violence.

So true Ang.

Spot on as usual.
Cicero (40)
1123896 2010-08-04 00:57:00 I would like to see you argue with Dr Sharples about this on a marae when he was carrying a taiaha!"

NEVER EVER bring a taiaha to a gunfight :devil
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