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| Thread ID: 111556 | 2010-08-02 03:19:00 | The foreshore,who's is it? | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 1123884 | 2010-08-03 02:14:00 | If you mean "whose is it?" Roddy was just pointing out the title to the thread (who's [sic] = who is is it?). And if he hadn't been in first, I would have pointed it out. :devil |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1123885 | 2010-08-03 02:45:00 | Had to have a laugh at this quote from Peter Sharples in the link provided by Snorkbox in post #17. “From the old pā site at Horehore, I can trace my descent back over 46 :eek: generations to Tararoa”. Probably related to Ena and owns Coronation Street too. :rolleyes: So did I. Lucky if I can trace my descent back to 3 or 4 generations. I don't know how the Maori can. As far as I know they never had a written language until the Europeans came along. :) |
Trev (427) | ||
| 1123886 | 2010-08-03 02:57:00 | So did I. Lucky if I can trace my descent back to 3 or 4 generations. I don't know how the Maori can. As far as I know they never had a written language until the Europeans came along. :) I wonder what happened when he woke up? :lol: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1123887 | 2010-08-03 03:46:00 | So did I. Lucky if I can trace my descent back to 3 or 4 generations. I don't know how the Maori can. As far as I know they never had a written language until the Europeans came along. :) They didn't need one. It's called whakapapa, see here (maaori.com). This recitation of their genealogy can cover their (aka mankind) history from the creation to the present day, a tremendous feat in itself to be able to recite all that from memory. Maori of course didn't have whoever wrote the Book of Genesis, or Joseph Smith, to call on. :p |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1123888 | 2010-08-03 05:47:00 | The foreshore,WHO IS IS IT????? Whose fault is that? I stand corrected. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1123889 | 2010-08-03 08:04:00 | Had to have a laugh at this quote from Peter Sharples in the link provided by Snorkbox in post #17. “From the old pā site at Horehore, I can trace my descent back over 46 :eek: generations to Tararoa”. Probably related to Ena and owns Coronation Street too. :rolleyes: 46 generations at say 45 years for a generation thats over 2000 years ago oldest maoris midden dated to 800 years ago. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1123890 | 2010-08-03 09:12:00 | 46 generations at say 45 years for a generation thats over 2000 years ago oldest maoris midden dated to 800 years ago. You can blame Honky inflation! :rolleyes: |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1123891 | 2010-08-03 10:43:00 | 46 generations at say 45 years for a generation thats over 2000 years ago oldest maoris midden dated to 800 years ago. Look at my post, #34. The cultural attributes and disciplines Maori exhibit exceed those that most of us in western culture display, by far! |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1123892 | 2010-08-03 11:28:00 | 46 generations at say 45 years for a generation thats over 2000 years ago oldest maoris midden dated to 800 years ago. Just a couple of comments: a. a generation is generally regarded as 30 years in historical terms, not 45 (that reduces the time to about 1380 years). However, remember that many people in a whakapapa would have come to a young and rather sticky end. I think that 30 years represented someone in old age, judging by remains dug up from pre colonisation sites, and many ancestors would have died a lot younger than that. b. you may be right about the age of the oldest discovered midden in NZ, but a lot of Māori whakapapa claim to go back beyond migration times, to their Hawaiiki (sp?) origins. Someone earlier mentioned that Māori did not have a written language. True, but they had/have a strong oral tradition, and many whakapapa were recited using what we would call an aide memoire - in the form of a carved staff. As I understand it oral traditions were drummed into promising kids as part of their education, so they were trained from an early age in memorising and reciting their whakapapa. Have a look here if you are interested: www.britishmuseum.org I would like to see you argue with Dr Sharples about this on a marae when he was carrying a taiaha! |
John H (8) | ||
| 1123893 | 2010-08-03 12:46:00 | 46 generations at say 45 years for a generation thats over 2000 years ago oldest maoris midden dated to 800 years ago. quite, they also introduced rats to the land of birds, which was the first of their acts of ecological destruction and carnage, the dateing of the rat bones and the middens coincide. dont tell the maoris this though, they hate scientific facts. Especially as the chineese may have been here and claimed this land before them. :) |
angry (15305) | ||
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