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Thread ID: 111419 2010-07-26 12:31:00 Wellington! Metla (12) PC World Chat
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1122557 2010-07-27 03:19:00 If one decided in their awesome judgement that NZ had to set right, which one would you prefer invaded this country?

I would ask my awsome leader of course,bound to get it right that way.
Cicero (40)
1122558 2010-07-27 03:20:00 I would have thought in your game,you could find small jobs and start on your own.

What?, You mean take on the local company with massive reserves and capabilities that just happens to be run by my father,brothers,and uncles?

Lmao.
Metla (12)
1122559 2010-07-27 04:18:00 (snip) Funny as at one interview, we were talking about project management, The dude stopped the interview, Said it sounds like I could do his job, and he wasn't hiring someone to do his job.

Lmfao.

And that was it, Shook my hand, showed me the door.

Well, you really have to admire his honesty and chutzpah, don't you! :lol:
John H (8)
1122560 2010-07-27 04:37:00 If you are "overqualified"

If you are a high-skilled worker such as a computer programmer, reach the age of 40, or have more than 10 years of experience, then you will be confronted with being rejected for jobs for being "overqualified". Recent surveys of hiring managers show that more than 95 percent of them either have never hired anyone with more than 10 years experience, or would not consider doing so. There is no easy way of getting around this problem. You just have to adapt to it the best way you can.

Here are the salient elements:

1. Rejection for being "overqualified" is a fairly recent cultural development. There was no such thing before the 1970s.
2. "Overqualified" is not just about age, although those over 40 may be "overqualified".
3. HR professionals, who are also a fairly recent development, and many hiring managers, would rather leave a job undone than risk being criticized for making a "bad hire". There is no downside for reporting that no one could be found to fill the position.
4. Hiring managers often have a personal agenda that differs from the best interests of their company, and a worker who has more skills or knowledge than the minimum needed to do the job may be a threat to the hiring manager and the established order in the department. This attitude has been expressed by some in such words as, "They've seen it all and know how it's done."
5. As a manager once put it, "It doesn't work to start a senior guy at an entry level because he knows too much, and sets a standard the others can't match, but if we start him at a high level the others resent him for not having come up though their ranks. It is easier to just avoid the problem by not making the hire."
6. Hiring managers will usually prefer to fill a position with someone underqualified, or leave the job undone, than hire someone who is "overqualified".
7. The myth that "overqualified" workers are more likely to leave for a better job is just that. Nonoverqualified workers are just as likely to leave. It is only the incompetents who cling to the job. But the myth is deeply entrenched.
8. It is not about obsolete skills, and retraining is not the solution, unless it is for working in an entirely different field, such as carpentry.
9. Discrimination against the "overqualified" is relentless. Don't believe protestations that they don't discriminate on the basis of age or experience or "overqualification", or when they point to a token "old guy". They are lying.

The second thing you need to do is plan for becoming "overqualified". Don't wait until you get laid off and find it takes two years to get the next job.

1. Plan your career move. Basically, there are only three alternatives if you haven't become rich enough to retire:
1. Move into management, but the supply of management jobs is limited compared to high tech skilled jobs.
2. Become an incorporated contractor and go into business for yourself. If you do, you had better have your own product, because clients tend to discriminate against over-40 contract workers as well, although not as much.
3. Move into another field, such as construction work, but be prepared for seasonal layoffs.
2. You may be out of work for six months between jobs in your twenties or thirties, but that will increase to a year or two, perhaps more, as you approach 40. Don't run out of money and become homeless. It is probably better not to have a family or a mortgage.
3. If you invest, invest in land where you can survive by living off the land.
4. Eventually the government will find a way to take it all away from you, or the economy will go bad and make your investments worthless.
5. Make your motor vehicle a van you can live in if it comes to that, keep it well-maintained, and learn to do your own repairs.
pctek (84)
1122561 2010-07-27 04:42:00 Number 7 in the first set is absolutely spot on!

(Interesting numbering sequence in the second set...)
johcar (6283)
1122562 2010-07-27 04:50:00 Mm, found that somewhere, too true regardless of the illiterate numbering..... pctek (84)
1122563 2010-07-27 05:01:00 Righto, I'm off to Whellington to live, well, 4 nights a week anyhow.

Who wants to rent me a room for a pittance?

But how is SWMBO going to cope without you? :lol:

Or did she give you marching :D orders?
Strommer (42)
1122564 2010-07-27 06:10:00 Mm, found that somewhere, too true regardless of the illiterate numbering.....

The original is maybe here www.pynthan.com

There are 3 sub paras to the 1st point
PaulD (232)
1122565 2010-07-27 07:01:00 I am so scared to leave my job even though I hate it, but I wish I had that feeling of starting a new job, always seems like the start of an adventure. rob_on_guitar (4196)
1122566 2010-07-27 07:20:00 Definitely a new chapter.

New town
New job
New people to live with....

Quite bizarre :horrified
Metla (12)
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