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Thread ID: 111556	2010-08-02 03:19:00	The foreshore,who's is it?	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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1123854	2010-08-02 03:19:00	From Muriel............. By Christmas, John Key intends to have passed a law that will result in the race-based privatisation of New Zealand ’s beaches and sea. This priceless public asset will be given to Maori, not because the present law is not working, but because John Key wants to build a long-term political relationship with the Maori Party. Politically it’s a good move – he takes the Maori seats away from a potential Labour coalition, and he has an alternative to ACT. But political wheeling and dealing has a price and this is a price too high. What’s more John Key has no mandate for trading away the foreshore and seabed to Maori radicals. If National had campaigned on giving the foreshore and seabed to Maori at the 2008 election, they would not have won. And with only 2.3 percent of the Party vote, the Maori Party does not have the mandate of wider Maori either.	Cicero (40)
1123855	2010-08-02 04:00:00	Whoever made it ... and can prove it.	SP8's (9836)
1123856	2010-08-02 04:25:00	Whoever made it ... and can prove it. I think you are onto it there old boy.!	Cicero (40)
1123857	2010-08-02 06:49:00	That stupid woman still wittering on? Strewth. The simple answer to your question (I assume you wanted an answer, and that it wasn't part of Mooriel's dumb rhetoric) is that no-one knows who owns the foreshore. That is because the racist Labour Party allowed themselves to get spooked by your racist chum Brash, and by bleatings of the newly arrived Pommie migrant who headed the local authority in Marlborough. The Labour government passed a law that denied Māori their legal right to get an answer to this question in the Courts of the land - a right that the Court had affirmed under our Constitution and statutes. Despite your foolish Act chum's "misinformation", no-one is giving any of the foreshore to Māori. Parliament is simply being asked to pass legislation that restores the pre-existing legal right to raise the question about customary rights to the foreshore and seabed in the Courts. Is that simple enough for your Act chums?	John H (8)
1123858	2010-08-02 07:00:00	Any more tacks to spit there John? :p Ken	kenj (9738)
1123859	2010-08-02 07:03:00	Whoever made it ... and can prove it. Aye. And as nobody can, it belong to every citicen feely and equaly. Not some racist, militant you owe us a living for all time minorty splinter group. Trying to extort the most possible from the rest of society with special rights and conditions for their area (Back Pocket). Hairy legs and her queer mates made this mess. Looks like johno"s mob are going to bow to the Apartite Benificeriaes. Do another traditional "Fastes Law in the West" deal, and make a bigger one. Rool on the Republic, then the Apartite Benificeriaes can go and argue with their Monarch in London. :)	angry (15305)
1123860	2010-08-02 07:04:00	lol the whole lot is nonsense anyway.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
1123861	2010-08-02 07:25:00	I'm sorry... how does vesting the foreshore in the public domain translate to giving it to Maori?	somebody (208)
1123862	2010-08-02 07:27:00	That stupid woman still wittering on? Strewth. The simple answer to your question (I assume you wanted an answer, and that it wasn't part of Mooriel's dumb rhetoric) is that no-one knows who owns the foreshore. That is because the racist Labour Party allowed themselves to get spooked by your racist chum Brash, and by bleatings of the newly arrived Pommie migrant who headed the local authority in Marlborough. The Labour government passed a law that denied Māori their legal right to get an answer to this question in the Courts of the land - a right that the Court had affirmed under our Constitution and statutes. Despite your foolish Act chum's "misinformation", no-one is giving any of the foreshore to Māori. Parliament is simply being asked to pass legislation that restores the pre-existing legal right to raise the question about customary rights to the foreshore and seabed in the Courts. Is that simple enough for your Act chums? The Englander Tom Harrison has been out here since the sixties. Where ever he goes what ever he does there is trouble. No different to most Englanders I have anything to do with. Stop panicking about the foreshore, I trust the maoris if they are given ownership not to stop access to beaches.	prefect (6291)
1123863	2010-08-02 07:31:00	So far the issue has not been tested in law to date so it is in limbo so to speak. I know I don't want to pay a Koha for access to the beaches though as you would have to do if you want to climb up Mount Tarawera out of Rotorua. You can't go without a guide.	Snorkbox (15764)
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