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Thread ID: 111662 2010-08-06 05:31:00 Has feminism been good for women ? limepile (96) PC World Chat
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1125002 2010-08-06 05:31:00 Been in a heated discussion with a friend over the ditch who believes the world is a way better place because of feminism. My wife doesn't think so.( I won't go into why just now )

As a bloke its hard to know because we see the world a lot differently. So who is right ( I have to agree with my wife, cos I love her and cos I'm a bloke )

I'm particularly interested in womens opinions although I know I'm gonna get some smarta**s comments as well.

Thanks in advance for educating me .
limepile (96)
1125003 2010-08-06 05:44:00 In some ways yes in other ways no gary67 (56)
1125004 2010-08-06 05:51:00 ( I have to agree with my wife, cos I love her and cos I'm a bloke )

Maybe for women ... but look what it's done for you ... :devil
SP8's (9836)
1125005 2010-08-06 06:25:00 What type of feminism, and in what era?
Militant feminists of the late 70's were a different group.
Some fought / are fighting for equal pay, some were / are against sexist language, others wanted/want entrance into male only jobs or clubs. There are many issues. It would be similar to ask "Are Maoris good people?" In relation to what, when, where?

It appears to me that when a group is judged or criticized, it is often the outspoken militants that many people have a problem with.
Strommer (42)
1125006 2010-08-06 06:27:00 Been in a heated discussion with a friend over the ditch who believes the world is a way better place because of feminism. My wife doesn't think so.( I won't go into why just now )



I would say yes.
Men would probably say no.

Take a look at how woman live in countries that don't have feminism and that tells you all you need to know.

In England even, woman couldn't own property so if your husband died and there was no older male child you were evicted and tough luck, go to the workhouse.

Never mind all the silly bra rubbish and nit-picking now - they were the main issues, to stop being treated worse than the dog. People forget that.
pctek (84)
1125007 2010-08-06 06:33:00 I'm all for equal pay for Women if they are doing the same job as a Guy.

But then does that also mean they should get an equal chance of getting to sit down on a seat in a bus after work? Or should Men do the gentlemany thing and stand up so the Woman can sit?
Snorkbox (15764)
1125008 2010-08-06 07:15:00 does that also mean they should get an equal chance of getting to sit down on a seat in a bus after work? Or should Men do the gentlemany thing and stand up so the Woman can sit?

Women are our equals now so the current generation does not engage in such unnecessary practices. Unfortunately the elderly have lost their privileges too, but not down in Invercargill - the bus is never full enough for that to be an issue.
Greven (91)
1125009 2010-08-06 08:58:00 I guess I mean since the 70"s.
She would be one of the militant feminazis.
She says that it was necessary ( militant feminism ) to protect women from men. I tend to think that the world is not a safer place for women, for instance, more women die in domestic violence incidents now.

I wonder if the level of respect has gone down ? And if so, can that be blamed on feminism or something else ?

The rules of society changed and whilst freedom was won for women, I believe it also freed men from some of the conventions that curbed their behavior , without replacing those constraints with anything meaningful. My point is that men have been allowed to behave as they like, to the detriment of society.

But I have been known to be wrong.
limepile (96)
1125010 2010-08-06 10:12:00 I think the status of women in today's society is a tad more complex than the fact of feminism alone, and although that movement certainly has brought a number of improvements, I suspect that is balanced by the negative aspects (such as respect for women having diminished by the fact that they are now - ostensibly - on an equal footing with men).

I suspect a sizeable persentage of women regret having come down to the same level as men... :)
johcar (6283)
1125011 2010-08-06 10:58:00 All people are equal but it appears that some are more equal than others.

Men have been denigrated over the years so that some will not take up occupations like teaching for example and in my opinion this has lead to some men not even knowing what their roles are in today's society.

Some time back some men wanted to be nurses and care for the sick. Women jumped on that idea as nursing was an occupation tradtionally reserved for the female gender and this was not due to feminism as such as it became later.
Snorkbox (15764)
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