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| Thread ID: 111707 | 2010-08-08 07:48:00 | Death to the manual gearbox. | Trev (427) | PC World Chat |
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| 1125656 | 2010-08-09 00:41:00 | Lol Gets you from A to B. We don't get the real cheapies. $6-10k and up. Better than working with dealers. If you want you can get used but very new BMWs / Mercedes, think 2008/09 for around $25k, a lot cheaper but still comes with the shop's warranty. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1125657 | 2010-08-09 00:53:00 | My kids are learning to drive on a manual (they bought it between them) and the key reason for their decision is that any fool can drive an auto, but if you learn on an auto, and later encounter an emergency when the only vehicle available is manual you are stuffed. Once learned you never forget how and no doubt in time they will gravitate to autos as manuals become more scarce. I enjoy driving and own a manual because it is more fun and you have more control, but I don't object to the odd auto rental from time to time. I don't plan on growing up until a few weeks before I die! Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1125658 | 2010-08-09 01:21:00 | I'm definitely a manual fan, though the car I have at the moment is the first automatic (well, tiptronic) I've ever bought. Was just too good a deal to pass up when I had a very short timeframe to get a car in. Will be probably going back to a proper manual next year. Same car but in manual would get better economy, and put the power down better - friend has one identical but diff trans, so have tested it thoroughly ;) That said some of the trick new robotised / semi-auto boxes are awesome, the one on the R35 GTR is quite nice, and especially love the one on the more recent e-gear-equipped Lambos. Haven't tried the current gen PDK yet... sounds fun though. The Evo X TC-SST was good too. I think I'd be seriously tempted to go with that style of semi-auto box when next buying a car where it's an option. Lot of people seem to be interpreting the comment about accidentally left-foot braking in an auto when used to a clutch, as meaning pressing the normal brake pedal. I took it as meaning, those stupid autotragics that have the "hand brake" as a foot pedal where the clutch normally is - VERY dangerous design imo. |
inphinity (7274) | ||
| 1125659 | 2010-08-09 01:42:00 | Don't believe it either. I would like to see a few mechanics back that up - I hear of autos and especially tippys costing upwards of $2500 to fix when they crap out, where it would be odd for a manual clutch to cost over around $1200 to replace, and even a whole gearbox for most jappas isn't going to break the bank. Yeah the article was talking about newer vehicles, and it's only the same cost because new manual transmissions are stupidly expensive to fix for some reason. |
roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 1125660 | 2010-08-09 03:07:00 | I just bought a second hand car 2 days ago, but while shopping I was surprised at the amount of manuals on offer. But cash and comfort dictated my choice this time around, ended up with a 99 holden vt, sweet deal, 2 grand and under 200kms, an offer I couldnt refuse even though the last time I owned a car single was a mustang. But got to think of bubs and her gears too now... Good man. And that is a bargain. Manual Vt's are still worth 20k though. And they are all V8, not sure if ive ever seen a manual v6 vt except maybe the supercharged one. |
hueybot3000 (3646) | ||
| 1125661 | 2010-08-09 03:16:00 | My kids are learning to drive on a manual (they bought it between them) and the key reason for their decision is that any fool can drive an auto, but if you learn on an auto, and later encounter an emergency when the only vehicle available is manual you are stuffed . Once learned you never forget how and no doubt in time they will gravitate to autos as manuals become more scarce . I enjoy driving and own a manual because it is more fun and you have more control, but I don't object to the odd auto rental from time to time . I don't plan on growing up until a few weeks before I die! Cheers Billy 8-{) I actually disagree with having the more control thing, with auto like you said, any fool can drive one, but it does offer more control then manually changing gears no matter how you put it . I think manuals just make you 'feel' like your more in control or like your more in tune with driving . My first 2 cars were manual, but after spending so much time driving for work as well as normal, I prefer the auto now . The only thing I dont like doing now is messing around under the hood as the motor just looks foreign to me with chips and electronics and warnings for me not to go any further . |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 1125662 | 2010-08-09 04:59:00 | I can drive a manual, not brilliantly and in the case of an emergency I might stall it once or twice but if need be I could drive from A to B. Main reason I'm not proficient in a manual is because we only have autos here. And I'm not keen to shell out heaps of $$$$ for lessons. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1125663 | 2010-08-09 07:42:00 | \I'm not keen to shell out heaps of $$$$ for lessons. Don't need to. Just get your dad or you friends' brothers or something, pay them a little bit if needed. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 1125664 | 2010-08-09 08:27:00 | I would never buy an auto (until I'm at least 70 anyway) and think everyone should learn to drive in a manual, or at least the law needs to be changed so that if the full driving test is taken in an auto, you can only drive an auto until some type of manual test is taken that will lift that restriction on your license . have they got rid of the automatic only liecences ?? if so thats bloody stupid . If you read the article I posted it says there is very little difference in cost in fixing a manual or automatic . :) Don't believe it either . I would like to see a few mechanics back that up - I hear of autos and especially tippys costing upwards of $2500 to fix when they crap out, where it would be odd for a manual clutch to cost over around $1200 to replace, and even a whole gearbox for most jappas isn't going to break the bank . don't forget dual mass clutches for manuals . they can cost 2k to replace as your replacing the whole flywheel as well . also they could also be talking about later model cars, not the older ones that most people are actually driving . I actually disagree with having the more control thing, with auto like you said, any fool can drive one, but it does offer more control then manually changing gears no matter how you put it . I think manuals just make you 'feel' like your more in control or like your more in tune with driving . one problem with auto's is knowing how they are programmed so you know WHEN they will change gears . a mate almost had a head on passing a car, when the gearbox decided it wouldn't drop down a gear . so he got stuck out on the wrong side of the road going a bit slow for the manoeuvre . v8 holden so not shortage of grunt, just a dumb gearbox that was stuck in granny mode . |
tweak'e (69) | ||
| 1125665 | 2010-08-09 08:32:00 | I would always recommend people to start in a manual, its a good skill to have and it helps the driver understand the car and how the engine behaves better. | The Error Guy (14052) | ||
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