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Thread ID: 111719	2010-08-08 23:28:00	Dole blungers again	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1125798	2010-08-08 23:28:00	www.stuff.co.nz Not sure how well it would go down, when there might not be jobs that are suitable for some and in this economic environment. In the past I concur with Pctek's movement and she has found it successful. I guess thou for others, you gotta be pretty extreme to physically move people to another area thou, not sure if that's legal. I also concur that solo parents should be eased back into work too. I know some of those who have been on the dole for years, but WINZ appear to not follow up with them. It's like they see them every 6 or 12 months when they are a long termer. They don't do anything, no school, no training, no applying for jobs, they just stay home all day and watch their budget. Not even sure what they can do, some may not think it's ethically possible to get them to clean trash and then you cannot put them into low paid jobs b/c there may be more keen people who are willing to apply for them. If you put a blanket over it (or a limit), it may create social issues, if you make them attend courses or just seminars, then you are just sunking tax payers money. In the past having been to some of their seminars there are people who just go there for a bit of social fun, one in our seminar was told to leave, b/c all she did every day was read a book in front of the presenter, I heard some others ate their roast meal in front of the presenter. Well they were open about it, maybe a sandwich not a plate, knife and fork :waughh: I guess thou, if you want inequality, the country may do better overall, but there is that rich/poor gap which some countries don't appear to address.	Nomad (952)
1125799	2010-08-09 00:26:00	www.stuff.co.nz In the past I concur with Pctek's movement and she has found it successful. Huh, don't know about that. The problem is me having a job still leaves us $11000 a year short here. Sooner or later, probably sooner, the remaining money will run out. I'm thinking we should bugger off again before it does. At least I had some PC work before, now I don't.	pctek (84)
1125800	2010-08-09 00:39:00	I didn't know about that. Thought you secured a role at a school ...	Nomad (952)
1125801	2010-08-09 02:57:00	Huh, don't know about that. The problem is me having a job still leaves us $11000 a year short here. Sooner or later, probably sooner, the remaining money will run out. I'm thinking we should bugger off again before it does. At least I had some PC work before, now I don't. Get him indoors out to work!	Cicero (40)
1125802	2010-08-09 03:08:00	Not going to discuss our personal situation. Remains that we can't afford to live here. I knew that. He had to find out the hard way.	pctek (84)
1125803	2010-08-09 03:16:00	Huh, don't know about that. The problem is me having a job still leaves us $11000 a year short here. Sooner or later, probably sooner, the remaining money will run out. I'm thinking we should bugger off again before it does. At least I had some PC work before, now I don't. You could look into starting a PC repair business up in Auckland on top of full time work. It's not easy (as you would well know) but I believe the paper yellow pages is about to go to print (my ad in there brings me a few jobs a week), you've got online Yellow Pages, flyer distribution, etc, to put your name out there as fast as possible. If you went at it fairly solidly you'd need to spend a few thousand probably (Yellow pages ad was $1100, a big flyer drop could be $1000), but it may bring just that extra income you need, and it will grow from there. The industry tends to charge a high rate, and people have always mentioned my low price as a selling point ($55/hr where here in Wellington the market price is $70-100). If you are willing to start at something like that, that'd be a reasonable income and might help you get going quicker than starting at the market rate. Then, people will probably not mind when you increase it later on. If you are aggressive with the advertising I think you might be able to get something off the ground before the money runs out. Just a thought.	george12 (7)
1125804	2010-08-09 03:16:00	What has changed?,we are up to speed on most of your activities,work wise. What wage would you expect to get in Auck,I am thinking min 40k? I am talking average for a tech.	Cicero (40)
1125805	2010-08-09 04:20:00	You could look into starting a PC repair business up in Auckland on top of full time work . No, not here . There's 56 in the West Local Directory . and more in the Western Leader . And a lot of those $25 an hour cowboys . Who continue to advertise . I wouldn't have time as well as working here - the travel takes up too much time for one thing . And I don't think I could make a living at it here . I couldn't there and there was less competition . Elsewhere job + part time repairs - yes . What wage would you expect to get in Auck,I am thinking min 40k? I am talking average for a tech . Well that's all I am - a tech Not a network engineer, so I can't get IT work . Stuff I've applied for varied from $35000 . It's not enough - theirs rent and all that - I don't know anyone in Akld that doesn't have 2 household incomes who pays rent or a mortgage .	pctek (84)
1125806	2010-08-09 05:34:00	You could look into starting a PC repair business up in Auckland on top of full time work . No, not here . There's 56 in the West Local Directory . and more in the Western Leader . And a lot of those $25 an hour cowboys . Who continue to advertise . I wouldn't have time as well as working here - the travel takes up too much time for one thing . And I don't think I could make a living at it here . I couldn't there and there was less competition . Elsewhere job + part time repairs - yes . What wage would you expect to get in Auck,I am thinking min 40k? I am talking average for a tech . Well that's all I am - a tech Not a network engineer, so I can't get IT work . Stuff I've applied for varied from $35000 . It's not enough - theirs rent and all that - I don't know anyone in Akld that doesn't have 2 household incomes who pays rent or a mortgage . And Metla tells us we have nothing to complain about . We might have to get rid of the burden!	Cicero (40)
1125807	2010-08-09 21:43:00	Bumped into this guy in the streets now and then with his wife and kids and he's still looking for a job since 2005 and couting .... I know some people who have been on it since they received student allowance. Me thinks they don't wanna work. Never gotten a job ever other than supermarket work while at uni. Stays home all day, watch tv, has afternoon naps and plays the Xbox. Every time they have a Winz meeting they get into a big sptaz and saying how the govt treats them bad and etc etc .. and pulls out all kinds of issues, saying he wants to go to Au or USA and saying all the families he seen at the supermarket is just too much like his own. They been on a sickness benefit then back onto the std benefit when medical cost was too expensive. Since uni they didn't really work anyway, at Xmas, they went to SJS and just to get a sign off and maintain the emergency benefit was that called? You look at their CV and it's got nothing. Uni student, not graduated. Supermarket stacking shelves while at uni. Winz doesn't seem to care either. Lucky if they see them in 6 months. Sometimes a 5min meeting, other times a seminar and then it's see ya later.	Nomad (952)
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