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Thread ID: 111736	2010-08-09 15:00:00	Who we are Fighting in Afghanistan	KenESmith (6287)	PC World Chat

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1126184	2010-08-15 07:33:00	You really do get rather boring and rather stupid as I have never said it is about freedom and right and wrong. I think it is time we all just shut up as we aren't going to convince you from your beliefs and you aren't going to convince us. I just don't hate the Yanks and love the Chinese government as you do. So what do the terrorist want Mike? lol your kinda funny	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126185	2010-08-15 08:30:00	So what do the terrorist want Mike? lol your kinda funny Post #68 Funny ha ha or funny peculiar.	mikebartnz (21)
1126186	2010-08-15 09:02:00	Funny ha ha or funny peculiar. What's your take on Al-Qaeda's objectives and motivations?, you have the guts to criticise others, but no guts to give us your take on this. but your looking good :P api.ning.com O50VxW2GgufTzODH67burvjPn7d7fSnTB55xVae-SVHX4u/redneck.jpg	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126187	2010-08-15 09:23:00	What's your take on Al-Qaeda's objectives and motivations?, you have the guts to criticise others, but no guts to give us your take on this. but your looking good :P api.ning.com O50VxW2GgufTzODH67burvjPn7d7fSnTB55xVae-SVHX4u/redneck.jpg You must be thick. Go and have a look at post #68. It is time for you to grow up as you were asked that question by some one else and have not answered.	mikebartnz (21)
1126188	2010-08-15 09:46:00	Lets look at the actual facts clear of opinion. 1. The US spend 10X plus more on there military than ANY other country on earth (so what you say). 2. The Middle East has by far the most of the "easily obtainable" proven oil reserves. 3. The US is occupying a country with the 4th largest proven oil reserves (keep in mind its probably 3rd or 2nd largest, but little prospecting in the last decade due to the ongoing conflict). 4. The US seems very preoccupied with Iran and they "claim" Iran has helped support Al-Qaeda . Iran itself has the 3rd largest proven Oil reserve. I fully believe this is true, Iran indeed does help support Al-Qaeda. 5. The US is in Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda (President Bush Stated that live on TV, I remember very clearly!). 6. The US was Extremely quick to expel Saddam out of Kuwait a small country with the worlds 6th largest Oil reserves. Mike and Angry, I can only describe you both as brainwashed red-necks with no ability to think for yourselves. If you want to go ahead and think this all all about freedom and right and wrong knock yourselves out. Of course this conflict is about Oil and regional control. If you want to rebut what I am saying then by all means type up a believable response to "What the so called Terrorist actually want", basically put up or shut up :) "1. The US spend 10X plus more on there military than ANY other country on earth (so what you say). B S China spends more than the us, on millitary expansion and supply, without supporting any overseas missions. "3. The US is occupying a country with the 4th largest proven oil reserves (keep in mind its probably 3rd or 2nd largest, but little prospecting in the last decade due to the ongoing conflict)." TOTAL B S. The UN SANCTIONED COALITION is supervising and assisting the current iraqui administration ." there has been no prospecting since the oil industry was nationalised, I belive in the 60's. nor has there been any investment in plant and equippment since the nationaliseation. Which is why so few western companies want to go in there and invest in the industry because they know as soon as they put in all the new plant and get the production up the iraquis will rip them off with nationaliseation AGAIN. Your anti US, blame the US for everything bias is showing badly here. "6. The US was Extremely quick to expel Saddam out of Kuwait a small country with the worlds 6th largest Oil reserves. " TOTAL B S. a UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONED COALITION expelled sadam for Kuwait. the first shots in that expulsion were fired by iraquis and SAUDIS. who said this was about freedom, there is certainly very little of it here in the bumhole of the world. If this was about reigonal controll the us would take it. it isnt, and never has been. Its the same as vietnam fight them in the east or fight them when they get here. in 1973 every body crowed that the US had lost in vietnam. South vietnam, cambodia and Laos fell to communist madmen, but the rest was saved. 1991 the majority of the red menace on the planet fell over. 25 years after the end of the vn conflict the review says, US objective in south east asia ACHEIVED. The COALITION against the bearded maniacs will win in the end, if they dont it will be because the bearded maniacs got their way and the planet has been turned into a nuclear slag heap. This conflict is probably going to last most of this century, according to some annalists. The taleban want: Planet taleban, where every one prays five times a day, where girls are not allowed to learn to, read, write, or go to school, and the women are barefoot, pregnant, moving about in public in a full body shroud. The total destruction of the west and its life styles. Where non muslims are slaves or dead. and there wont be no pf1 either. and thats just for starters. you are now getting personal p brain because you can not support your untenable, war for resource anti US position with facts. The insistance by you that the conflict is a resource war simply shows your ignorance and lack of balanced (or any) reaserch. You are still ducking my question to you about iran and why they keep feeding the conflict in helmand. you cant answer this, because you dont know what the F you are talking about	angry (15305)
1126189	2010-08-16 03:35:00	"1 . The US spend 10X plus more on there military than ANY other country on earth (so what you say) . B S China spends more than the us, on millitary expansion and supply, without supporting any overseas missions . . wikipedia . org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures" target="_blank">en . wikipedia . org KA are you tripping? sorry got a little carried away the US spends about 6 . 7X more on war than ANY country on earth . Its more than the next 10 countries combined! "3 . The US is occupying a country with the 4th largest proven oil reserves (keep in mind its probably 3rd or 2nd largest, but little prospecting in the last decade due to the ongoing conflict) . " TOTAL B S . The UN SANCTIONED COALITION is supervising and assisting the current iraqui administration . " there has been no prospecting since the oil industry was nationalised, I belive in the 60's . nor has there been any investment in plant and equippment since the nationaliseation . Which is why so few western companies want to go in there and invest in the industry because they know as soon as they put in all the new plant and get the production up the iraquis will rip them off with nationaliseation AGAIN . . nationmaster . com/graph/ene_oil_res-energy-oil-reserves" target="_blank">www . nationmaster . com Ka? Iraq has still the 4th largest proven oil reserves . I agree with your comments about investment . Its still the 4th and the US still occupies it! Well until the puppet government goes in anyway . These are facts, you can join the dots or believe its coincidence . "6 . The US was Extremely quick to expel Saddam out of Kuwait a small country with the worlds 6th largest Oil reserves . " TOTAL B S . a UNITED NATIONS SANCTIONED COALITION expelled sadam for Kuwait . the first shots in that expulsion were fired by iraquis and SAUDIS . Sure the Coalition led by the US . My main point was for the such a small country didnt the West react fast!, wonder why hmmm let me think what does Kuwait have a lot of . . . . . . . The COALITION against the bearded maniacs will win in the end, if they dont it will be because the bearded maniacs got their way and the planet has been turned into a nuclear slag heap . Yes they are all "bearded maniacs" ah! So anyone that has a problem with the West's "foreign policy" is a bearded maniac, because here in the West Like the Nazi's we are 100% in the right and god is with us! . To hell with hearing there side, lets just kill em all! They will keep killing us, no need to try and find a middle ground . So anyway what do those evil bearded maniacs "really" want Angry? . Be honest you haven't a clue .	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126190	2010-08-16 04:21:00	. wikipedia . org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures" target="_blank">en . wikipedia . org KA are you tripping? sorry got a little carried away the US spends about 6 . 7X more on war than ANY country on earth . Its more than the next 10 countries combined! . nationmaster . com/graph/ene_oil_res-energy-oil-reserves" target="_blank">www . nationmaster . com Ka? Iraq has still the 4th largest proven oil reserves . I agree with your comments about investment . Its still the 4th and the US still occupies it! Well until the puppet government goes in anyway . These are facts, you can join the dots or believe its coincidence . Sure the Coalition led by the US . My main point was for the such a small country didnt the West react fast!, wonder why hmmm let me think what does Kuwait have a lot of . . . . . . . Yes they are all "bearded maniacs" ah! So anyone that has a problem with the West's "foreign policy" is a bearded maniac, because here in the West Like the Nazi's we are 100% in the right and god is with us! . To hell with hearing there side, lets just kill em all! They will keep killing us, no need to try and find a middle ground . So anyway what do those evil bearded maniacs "really" want Angry? . Be honest you haven't a clue . " So anyway what do those evil bearded maniacs "really" want Angry? . Be honest you haven't a clue . " I told you what they want, you havent disputed it or put forward any other options . You just stick to your untennable worn out boring, its a resource war, THE AMERICANS WANT THE OIL . You still havent answered my question on helmand because your 90 second google skim didnt bring it up, and thats all you know about this topic, for you its just another oppourtunity to beat on america . very pathetic and very booring . I never said that western or american policys were correct . or that they were the only way . I said the bearded maniacs were NOT the way . I said because of what the bearded maniacs want we have not choice but to deal with them on THEIR LEVEL AND BY THEIR RULES . You continuiously grind your vendetta against america, you have yet to refute with facts anything i said about what the bearded maniacs want . EG all you have and all you know is, america bad america bad . go live in saudi or yemmen for a month, if you can survive there that long, and see how you bearded maniac mate's treat you, particularly in yemmen . youll either come back with a very different oppinion/position or as a bearded maniac . ill put money on the former . bn2 = smelly hot air, no topic knowledge, untenable bias, score - 99 . :D	angry (15305)
1126191	2010-08-16 04:33:00	You really do get rather boring and rather stupid as I have never said it is about freedom and right and wrong. I think it is time we all just shut up as we aren't going to convince you from your beliefs and you aren't going to convince us. I just don't hate the Yanks and love the Chinese government as you do. "I just don't hate the Yanks and love the Chinese government as you do." I thought he wanted the bearded maniacs in control of the planet. the chiness will shoot him, just as fast as the maniacs will cut off his head. you can not change the position of A HATEFUL PROPAGANDIST for even when they know they are wrong they will not conceed it. However it is not in the intrests of right to allow such a position to go unchallenged. to do is disrespectful of the fallen in the fight against the tyrrany of the bearded maniacs.	angry (15305)
1126192	2010-08-16 04:50:00	"I just don't hate the Yanks and love the Chinese government as you do . " I thought he wanted the bearded maniacs in control of the planet . the chiness will shoot him, just as fast as the maniacs will cut off his head . you can not change the position of A HATEFUL PROPAGANDIST for even when they know they are wrong they will not conceed it . However it is not in the intrests of right to allow such a position to go unchallenged . to do is disrespectful of the fallen in the fight against the tyrrany of the bearded maniacs . Lets be very clear, Al-Qaeda is an army and they murder innocent civilians, but mind due there is well documented evidence of Western governments doing the same . RAINBOW WARRIOR ring any bells if you want a close to home example lol . Or am I spreading propaganda about the French government now?, You cant work on peace if you dont "understand" your enemies grievances . I am not suggesting you should "agree" with you enemies grievances, BUT you should at least know what they are . Lastly Angry what do Al-Qaeda actually want? just answer that one VERY simple question! If you think I am wrong then you must have a real understanding of the conflict . Just calling them evil or nutters is incredibly naive .	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126193	2010-08-16 07:29:00	Lets be very clear, Al-Qaeda is an army and they murder innocent civilians, but mind due there is well documented evidence of Western governments doing the same . RAINBOW WARRIOR ring any bells if you want a close to home example lol . Or am I spreading propaganda about the French government now?, You cant work on peace if you dont "understand" your enemies grievances . I am not suggesting you should "agree" with you enemies grievances, BUT you should at least know what they are . Lastly Angry what do Al-Qaeda actually want? just answer that one VERY simple question! If you think I am wrong then you must have a real understanding of the conflict . Just calling them evil or nutters is incredibly naive . " Lastly Angry what do Al-Qaeda actually want? just answer that one VERY simple question! If you think I am wrong then you must have a real understanding of the conflict . Just calling them evil or nutters is incredibly naive . " i told you what they wanted, you are to bone idel to read the post, or more likely incapable of thinking up a spin for the truth . Just as you keep ducking the question i put to you about helmand . probably because your 90 second googles dont give you an easy anti american answer . The french have always been terrorists, murderers and war mongers, . newsvine . com/_news/2009/02/28/2488869-the-complete-military-history-of-france-satire" target="_blank">gaian2000 . newsvine . com there are several versions of this . for some reason they leave out the first crusade which the french started with the pope .	angry (15305)
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