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Thread ID: 111736	2010-08-09 15:00:00	Who we are Fighting in Afghanistan	KenESmith (6287)	PC World Chat

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1126174	2010-08-14 04:04:00	we know the us ONCE backed sadam and iran AT THE SAME TIME. (I wonder if you understand the rationale of that). Covering your bases, which ever country you can manipulate, seems fair enough. Your not going far enough, for example if Iran developed Nuclear weapons the US cannot pressure Iran, the option to ever invade is gone and they know it!. Do you ""seriously"" think its coincidence Iraq is probably the second largest oil reserve in the world? There are dictators in Africa that make Saddam look like an angle, where is the US there?	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126175	2010-08-14 04:34:00	There are dictators in Africa that make Saddam look like an angle, where is the US there? Saddam is dead - he doesn't look like an angle these days, acute or obtuse. I'd sharpen up your research though as plenty of oil in Africa. Even more in Canada so I guess we should expect that the US will invade Canada any day now following your theory.	Twelvevolts (5457)
1126176	2010-08-14 04:50:00	Covering your bases, which ever country you can manipulate, seems fair enough. Your not going far enough, for example if Iran developed Nuclear weapons the US cannot pressure Iran, the option to ever invade is gone and they know it!. Do you ""seriously"" think its coincidence Iraq is probably the second largest oil reserve in the world? There are dictators in Africa that make Saddam look like an angle, where is the US there? " Covering your bases, which ever country you can manipulate, seems fair enough. " Wrong. " Your not going far enough, for example if Iran developed Nuclear weapons the US cannot pressure Iran, the option to ever invade is gone and they know it!. " Wrong do you think iran will ever be allowed to have nukes? If you do you have some very big problems. AS for the rest, your so addicted to the resource drum you cant see anything else. I see you ducked the "helmad" Question	angry (15305)
1126177	2010-08-14 04:51:00	US backed Saddam Hussein in the early 80's (well known fact but for those that disbelieve) www.gwu.edu (www.gwu.edu) The relationship went pear shaped and it was necessary to remove him. Saddam, Iran, Syria groups in Pakistan, and others back Al-Qaeda to fight Western interests. Religion is used to motivate both sides, but it basically boils down to $$(oil) once you blow away the smoke screen. The west's history of backing leaders etc in the east is about as good as my backing horses. You win some you loose some.	mikebartnz (21)
1126178	2010-08-14 04:53:00	Do you ""seriously"" think its coincidence Iraq is probably the second largest oil reserve in the world? Having talked to some one a while ago we actually have rather large oil reserves here. The Afghan war has absolutely nothing to do with resources.	mikebartnz (21)
1126179	2010-08-14 05:02:00	Saddam is dead - he doesn't look like an angle these days, acute or obtuse. I'd sharpen up your research though as plenty of oil in Africa. Even more in Canada so I guess we should expect that the US will invade Canada any day now following your theory. Really! upload.wikimedia.org There is some proven reserves in Africa sure, and yes Canada is very oil rich with it tar sands, be it expensive to extract. This is not about American companies rolling up and pumping stolen oil into 42 gallon Oil barrels lol, that is a somewhat simplistic image, but there is a war raging over the control of oil none the less. The Afghan war has absolutely nothing to do with resources. Yea it does, the opposing army was/is based in Afghanistan and the US is there to neutralise them. No country wants to officially "host" Al-Qaeda as they will clearly be invaded. Afghanistan was easy to operate out of as its a basket case of a country as we all know.	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126180	2010-08-14 11:13:00	Yea it does, the opposing army was/is based in Afghanistan and the US is there to neutralise them. No country wants to officially "host" Al-Qaeda as they will clearly be invaded. Afghanistan was easy to operate out of as its a basket case of a country as we all know. So what is the resource you are talking about?:rolleyes:	mikebartnz (21)
1126181	2010-08-14 19:47:00	So what is the resource you are talking about?:rolleyes: bn 2 cant tell you because he dosent know what the f he is talking about. ( he cant answer the question i put to him about helmand, and iran's involvment there, because he dosen't know) bn2 is addicted to the MYTH that "The americans want the oil", and is to ignorant to see that this conflict is a lot more serious than a mere "resourse war". All resouce wars can be setteled by negotiation(and most ultimately are) because in a resource war, the armed conflict is nothing more than an extension of business and politics. as iterated by: fredric the great, von manstien, klausawits ect. as opposed to an Ideoligical war. Where: A change of demographics, An out right victory, or as in the case of bandon achea (Indonesian Tusnami), a catastrophic natural disaster, are the cause of a cessation of hostilitys. However ideoligical conflicts have this habit of coming back to life. Particularly if there is no cultural and ideological assimilation between the combatants.	angry (15305)
1126182	2010-08-15 04:00:00	Lets look at the actual facts clear of opinion. 1. The US spend 10X plus more on there military than ANY other country on earth (so what you say). 2. The Middle East has by far the most of the "easily obtainable" proven oil reserves. 3. The US is occupying a country with the 4th largest proven oil reserves (keep in mind its probably 3rd or 2nd largest, but little prospecting in the last decade due to the ongoing conflict). 4. The US seems very preoccupied with Iran and they "claim" Iran has helped support Al-Qaeda . Iran itself has the 3rd largest proven Oil reserve. I fully believe this is true, Iran indeed does help support Al-Qaeda. 5. The US is in Afghanistan to eliminate Al-Qaeda (President Bush Stated that live on TV, I remember very clearly!). 6. The US was Extremely quick to expel Saddam out of Kuwait a small country with the worlds 6th largest Oil reserves. Mike and Angry, I can only describe you both as brainwashed red-necks with no ability to think for yourselves. If you want to go ahead and think this all all about freedom and right and wrong knock yourselves out. Of course this conflict is about Oil and regional control. If you want to rebut what I am saying then by all means type up a believable response to "What the so called Terrorist actually want", basically put up or shut up :)	Battleneter2 (9361)
1126183	2010-08-15 05:13:00	Mike and Angry, I can only describe you both as brainwashed red-necks with no ability to think for yourselves. If you want to go ahead and think this all all about freedom and right and wrong knock yourselves out. Of course this conflict is about Oil and regional control. If you want to rebut what I am saying then by all means type up a believable response to "What the so called Terrorist actually want", basically put up or shut up :) You really do get rather boring and rather stupid as I have never said it is about freedom and right and wrong. I think it is time we all just shut up as we aren't going to convince you from your beliefs and you aren't going to convince us. I just don't hate the Yanks and love the Chinese government as you do.	mikebartnz (21)
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