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Thread ID: 111719	2010-08-08 23:28:00	Dole blungers again	Nomad (952)	PC World Chat

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1125828	2010-08-10 20:46:00	I don't think there's anyone here who would want to deny assistance to people who have a genuine reason 60000 people who have spent the last 10 years on a benefit, and 100000 who have spent 9/10 years on welfare is a huge proportion of our population. . Yes so instead of picking on them as a whole - WINZ staff should be making a point of doing something about these people.	pctek (84)
1125829	2010-08-10 21:33:00	. stuff . co . nz/national/politics/4003372/Warning-of-50b-bill-on-welfare" target="_blank">www . stuff . co . nz Not sure how well it would go down, when there might not be jobs that are suitable for some and in this economic environment . In the past I concur with Pctek's movement and she has found it successful . I guess thou for others, you gotta be pretty extreme to physically move people to another area thou, not sure if that's legal . I also concur that solo parents should be eased back into work too . I know some of those who have been on the dole for years, but WINZ appear to not follow up with them . It's like they see them every 6 or 12 months when they are a long termer . They don't do anything, no school, no training, no applying for jobs, they just stay home all day and watch their budget . Not even sure what they can do, some may not think it's ethically possible to get them to clean trash and then you cannot put them into low paid jobs b/c there may be more keen people who are willing to apply for them . If you put a blanket over it (or a limit), it may create social issues, if you make them attend courses or just seminars, then you are just sunking tax payers money . In the past having been to some of their seminars there are people who just go there for a bit of social fun, one in our seminar was told to leave, b/c all she did every day was read a book in front of the presenter, I heard some others ate their roast meal in front of the presenter . Well they were open about it, maybe a sandwich not a plate, knife and fork :waughh: I guess thou, if you want inequality, the country may do better overall, but there is that rich/poor gap which some countries don't appear to address . Jeez - I haven't read the forums here for a couple days, and I get rewarded with this kinda shzza!! ***	Greg (193)
1125830	2010-08-11 00:18:00	A perhaps more balanced view. www.nzherald.co.nz	KarameaDave (15222)
1125831	2010-08-11 00:35:00	But no matter how many sticks and carrots they come up with, it's all hopelessly theoretical until the Government, or the economy, comes up with some new jobs . Last month, 63,059 received the dole . Just two years before, that figure was just 17,710 . Just a month ago, Prime Minister John Key declared his local pizza delivery man was a supporter of the law allowing workers to be hired on a 90-day trial . It then emerged that pizza man Sanjay Kumar has a master's degree in zoology and a business diploma, but the only job he could get was as a self-employed fast-food deliverer .	pctek (84)
1125832	2010-08-11 01:09:00	It then emerged that pizza man Sanjay Kumar has a master's degree in zoology and a business diploma, but the only job he could get was as a self-employed fast-food deliverer. Yeah, that stuff infuriated me so much man. Bloody idiots running the country, there must be some way to employ that man. I don't know, maybe put him and his family on some financial assistance for a year or two while he goes on some course to prove his knowledge. I am certain if he worked in his proper field in NZ he would pay us back his 1-2 year financial assistance by many folds over the course of his time working here.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
1125833	2010-08-11 02:28:00	That's right, and I hate to think of the number of overseas qualified doctors, engineers and others, stuck driving taxis in this country...it's such a waste of their knowledge and potential.	KarameaDave (15222)
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