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| Thread ID: 111736 | 2010-08-09 15:00:00 | Who we are Fighting in Afghanistan | KenESmith (6287) | PC World Chat |
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| 1126114 | 2010-08-09 23:32:00 | lol KenESmith You are really buying into the "we are there for there freedom" hero crap. Every day thousands of people are either killed or raped in a number of African countries..... The war is about destroying the infrastructure of a militant group "Al-Qaeda" who are backed by a number of countries Iran, was Iraq, Syria to fight for regional and resource control. These countries realise they cannot fight the US head on. The US calls it "Terrorism", those countries feel the US is dominating there region with there military and influence. I sort of agree with you but having hit Al-Qaeda and removed the Taliban government, the coalition forces couldn't walk out and leave a vacuum. But Ken is dead right - nobody since Alexander has controlled Afghanistan. We are at the stage where we need a world military force to bring stability and order to some nations. We could afford it globally but as yet not politically. Simple principles: rule of law and civil order. Equality of opportunity. You can have an Islamic state provided you adapt to the principles. Indonesia is a good if imperfect example. As for the millions of starving people - this leaves me in despair. The problem is rampant population growth in the poorest countries and has nothing to do with the USA security policies. But how can you tell people not to have children? Its the most fundamental thing a human does. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 1126115 | 2010-08-09 23:50:00 | Everyone in the world could easily be fed...if we shared. But that is communism...isn't it? |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1126116 | 2010-08-10 00:32:00 | I am fully in agreement with the concept of destroying Al Quaida and its support base, wherever it may be, because militant Islamic terrorism What you call "terrorism" is what others call "freedom fighting". There are millions in the world that see the United States Military action as a type of "Terrorism", and this is how they fight back. Understanding both sides is the first step to actually finding a solution. Afghanistan war is in DIRECT repsonce to 911 not "freedom fighting" en.wikipedia.org "in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks on the US" & "to remove the safe haven to Al-Qaeda". Of course the US public were horrified and needed to be appeased as soon as possible. And before we all get on our high horses about human rights, lets remember the Patriot Act in the US has removed nearly all major Citizens rights, Guantánamo Bay is a torture camp WITHOUT trail. And the US shoots its citizens as well www.msnbc.msn.com Perspective is about how much "spin" you put on events to sell the public to enter the US army or join Al-Qaeda. |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 1126117 | 2010-08-10 01:06:00 | He was going to be executed. He asked for the firing squad option. Ken |
kenj (9738) | ||
| 1126118 | 2010-08-10 08:29:00 | What you call "terrorism" is what others call "freedom fighting". There are millions in the world that see the United States Military action as a type of "Terrorism", and this is how they fight back. Understanding both sides is the first step to actually finding a solution. Afghanistan war is in DIRECT repsonce to 911 not "freedom fighting" en.wikipedia.org "in response to the September 11, 2001 attacks on the US" & "to remove the safe haven to Al-Qaeda". Of course the US public were horrified and needed to be appeased as soon as possible. And before we all get on our high horses about human rights, lets remember the Patriot Act in the US has removed nearly all major Citizens rights, Guantánamo Bay is a torture camp WITHOUT trail. And the US shoots its citizens as well www.msnbc.msn.com Perspective is about how much "spin" you put on events to sell the public to enter the US army or join Al-Qaeda. I'm always amazed how people are able to come up with a anti-US spin on everything. Give you a choice of two countries to live in the US or Afghanistan, which one would you go to? You'd probably have made a good case that Hitler was misunderstood and the Americans caused WW 2, strangely their are nutters who even hold that point of view. Freedom Fighting isn't flying planes into buildings, cutting off peoples noses, stoning people to death etc etc. |
Twelvevolts (5457) | ||
| 1126119 | 2010-08-10 09:30:00 | "Savilians", must need saving, never heard of them Hers one here (images.google.com 0%26bih%3D747%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=292&vpy=109&dur=781&hovh=225&hovw=224&tx=119&ty=91&oei=IA1hTLrWG4vevQPT3-yCCQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=35&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0) :thumbs: |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1126120 | 2010-08-10 09:59:00 | Some fairly startling statistics showing the positive efforts that our PRT are contributing to: dimpost.files.wordpress.com | somebody (208) | ||
| 1126121 | 2010-08-10 11:21:00 | Next to Jibrovia? | Whenu (9358) | ||
| 1126122 | 2010-08-10 21:59:00 | I think everyone agrees we cant win the war in Afghanistan against the Taliban and Al qada. The people there will fight quite happily amongst themselves if there are no foreigners there. That said just killing the evil buggers for target practice might be the go. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1126123 | 2010-08-10 23:58:00 | Everyone in the world could easily be fed...if we shared. But that is communism...isn't it? Ha they used to say that about the US military budget, remember, "if they stopped building weapons for 1 week it would feed all the hungry in the world for a year" Same goes for the cathoilic church..... not weapons that is :rolleyes: Personally i would rather they fixed the hungry in their own country first |
Gobe1 (6290) | ||
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