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| Thread ID: 111719 | 2010-08-08 23:28:00 | Dole blungers again | Nomad (952) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1125808 | 2010-08-09 21:57:00 | Me thinks they don't wanna work . Winz doesn't seem to care either . Well I damn well do . And yes WINZ are useless - I've applied for things via their jobsite - it vanishes into a black hole, you never hear anything from them . No wonder they have so many people on their books . |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1125809 | 2010-08-09 22:04:00 | Perhaps they are understaffed...they could employ all the beneficiaries. But then they wouldn't be needed! :D |
KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1125810 | 2010-08-09 22:27:00 | Perhaps they are understaffed...they could employ all the beneficiaries. But then they wouldn't be needed! :D Interesting dilemma. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1125811 | 2010-08-09 23:47:00 | I saw a great printed shirt the other day. The message was as follows: "Work harder - those on welfare are counting on you" |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1125812 | 2010-08-09 23:47:00 | Saying that benefit cost *could* soar to $50 billion is like saying the sun could explode tomorrow. Well it could - it's just unlikely. Phil Goff hit the nail on the head when he said it's not about welfare costs - it's the fact that the jobs aren't out there. 16,000 extra unemployed in the last 3 months! This is Nationals typical knee-jerk reaction to govt expenses - "It's not out fault! Blame it on labour!" |
SoniKalien (792) | ||
| 1125813 | 2010-08-09 23:52:00 | i heard there might only been 0.3% of those who received it for 10yrs was it .. but nominally there is still a group of them anyway. to me at least it's the long termers. i know some of them who been on it since the mid 2000s. perhaps the recession was bad since then. some of them been on it since 2000. on and off when they did a certificate program for 1 or 3 months and then back on it. maybe got some part time job (still getting the benefit) and then after a while they quit. not doing anything is like saying, there is no jobs and for those 0.3% hey don't sweat it. just sit back until 99.7% get jobs and then maybe it will be your turn. some of them just live at home without the expenses, save up the dole and go overseas with their family. save the dole and buy games. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1125814 | 2010-08-10 00:18:00 | When one signss on for the dole, it should be on the basis of I need a job, If I cannot find one myself, please find one for me. If the job that is found is within the applicants physical and mental capabilities, and there is no reasonable justification for not taking the employment found, then the financial support of the taxpayer should be withdrawn. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1125815 | 2010-08-10 00:33:00 | There is also a certain amount of people, like myself, who are able to work but are unlikely to get employed. In my case, I'm deaf. I'm very skilled at fixing PC's, I can do website design etc. The problem is (apart from saturated markets) I'm deaf, and although legally I can't be refused a job for that reason, realistically it's important for any employee to have good communication skills. And being deaf presents extra challenges that most (if not all) employers don't really need and therefore are more likely to hire somebody else. It's ironic that WINZ have put me on an invalids benefit. I don't class myself as an invalid, but that says to me that WINZ agrees - I don't have much chance of getting a job, as much I am actively job seeking etc... I would love to be able to spend the rest of my days fixing computers, and I can, but it's not a realistic option. |
SoniKalien (792) | ||
| 1125816 | 2010-08-10 00:40:00 | When one signss on for the dole, it should be on the basis of I need a job, If I cannot find one myself, please find one for me. . It is meant to be like that. In reality: I asked them about that once. They said they don't have enough jobs and the concentrate on those without much skill at finding them themselves. So, if you have a few clues they ignore you. Great. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1125817 | 2010-08-10 00:40:00 | There is also a certain amount of people, like myself, who are able to work but are unlikely to get employed. In my case, I'm deaf. I'm very skilled at fixing PC's, I can do website design etc. The problem is (apart from saturated markets) I'm deaf, and although legally I can't be refused a job for that reason, realistically it's important for any employee to have good communication skills. And being deaf presents extra challenges that most (if not all) employers don't really need and therefore are more likely to hire somebody else. It's ironic that WINZ have put me on an invalids benefit. I don't class myself as an invalid, but that says to me that WINZ agrees - I don't have much chance of getting a job, as much I am actively job seeking etc... I would love to be able to spend the rest of my days fixing computers, and I can, but it's not a realistic option. From Porirua? PJ |
Poppa John (284) | ||
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