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| Thread ID: 115527 | 2011-01-22 07:57:00 | Thinking of buying a new Dell Computer | dianne pierce (13385) | Press F1 |
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| 1171794 | 2011-01-23 21:29:00 | I FULLY agree with PCTeck :thumbs: I also have seen LOTS of the budget Dells through the workshop. Once out of their snotty 1 year warranty, they dont want to know. The Business class Dells are a better PC, than the budget rubbish. As its been pointed out - you dont know what sort of low spec rubbish they are using. I assume thats an open challenge ? If so I have just done it, The dell 560 (www1.ap.dell.com), the one on the Left ( tower) @ $849.00. Working from the sites spec's, then going to my suppliers, matching up components --easily beat it and match the price. Of course it wouldn't be the same case as Dell would have those made for themselves. Only thing Is I couldn't build it, because some of the products, Mainly the Motherboard, which is Socket 775 are being phased out these days, suppliers are getting newer more modern stock - so that means Dell are obviously using out of date, Obsolete components. Thats you WT, I said CL, and that fact you cant source all the parts means you cant either, what the point of a $50 mobo if you cant get it?.... Still, i liked to see you build a system from scratch with O/S installed and the productivity software they include with delivery for $850, that pays for your time, including sourcing etc.... Id also like to hear your views on CL BUDGET systems also, do you think they use premium components on all motherboards? |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1171795 | 2011-01-23 22:00:00 | Id also like to hear your views on CL BUDGET systems also, do you think they use premium components on all motherboards? They (and so did I) use the low end boards (less features, etc) BUT stick to the better brands of them. Dell doesn't - not in the home user PCs anyway. And, whatever, support for a home user from Dell versus CL - I know who is going to have less hassle. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1171796 | 2011-01-23 22:02:00 | As a note of interest - PC Authority 2010 survey results show apple as the winner followed by ASUS (laptops) and then Dell, over Lenovo and HP/Compaq The winning factor for Apple was the customer service of 82%. The article states that for the most part the other brands didnt perform poorly in this area??!! |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1171797 | 2011-01-23 22:08:00 | Personally I wouldn't bother with Dell, only reason I have one is because it was a birthday present back in 2006. I prefer building my own, much easier to swap parts out later if I need to (and have/about to). Still, i liked to see you build a system from scratch with O/S installed and the productivity software they include with delivery for $850, that pays for your time, including sourcing etc... That's almost always trial software :rolleyes: (Note: unless it's Office Starter 2010) |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1171798 | 2011-01-23 22:31:00 | Thats you WT, I said CL, and that fact you cant source all the parts means you cant either, what the point of a $50 mobo if you cant get it?.... Still, i liked to see you build a system from scratch with O/S installed and the productivity software they include with delivery for $850, that pays for your time, including sourcing etc.... Id also like to hear your views on CL BUDGET systems also, do you think they use premium components on all motherboards? CL would be able to do easier than me anyway - they deal with higher turnover and stock ordering, so they would be getting better wholesale pricing than me. Also you cant go by the advertised pricing on CL 's site. They wouldn't be building PC's at the price the public see - they wouldn't buy a part say for $100 and sell it for the same price. The reason I said I couldn't build it, should be more like I Wouldn't build it, because I know damn well that the three year warranty couldn't be kept (compared to Dells crappy 1 year), with out a long waiting time for a repair if a problem arose. And re the software -- as PCUSER42 points out its trial software, or software thats freely available - all of which I can easily get or HAVE got - Eg: the Office starter, and full trials of Office. Many times I have had to reinstall Dell's, and put back all the original software that came with the PC - not from Dell CD's or their site either also left out Dells bloatware/phone home crap) As for paying for my time / sourcing -- thats up to me if I want to make a small profit or not, on a single PC. Your remark was along the lines of the Dell price count be matched -- Well it can. The sourcing - took all of 5 minutes Literally. If I were like Dell and sold in bulk - many small profits add up to one larger one overall. Keep in mind that Dell would be buying components by the thousands, not one or two of, so their buy price would be next to bugger all. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1171799 | 2011-01-23 22:32:00 | Personally I wouldn't bother with Dell, only reason I have one is because it was a birthday present back in 2006 . I prefer building my own, much easier to swap parts out later if I need to (and have/about to) . That's almost always trial software :rolleyes: (Note: unless it's Office Starter 2010) LOL, so your 2006 Dell is still working?, must be a miracle going by some of the posts in this thread . 3 yrs is the business model for most companies, i would think 5 yrs average for home PC's . . . As for the productivity software, Im not just talking about office suites . . . . however thats neither here nor there . . . . . |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1171800 | 2011-01-23 22:36:00 | CL would be able to do easier than me anyway - they deal with higher turnover and stock ordering, so they would be getting better wholesale pricing than me. The reason I said I couldn't build it, should be more like I Wouldn't build it, because I know damn well that the three year warranty couldn't be kept (compared to Dells crappy 1 year), with out a long waiting time for a repair if a problem arose. And re the software -- as PCUSER42 points out its trial software, or software thats freely available - all of which I can easily get or HAVE got - Eg: the Office starter, and full trials of Office. Many times I have had to reinstall Dell's, and put back all the original software that came with the PC - not from Dell CD's or their site either also left out Dells bloatware/phone home crap) As for paying for my time / sourcing -- thats up to me if I want to make a small profit or not, on a single PC. Your remark was along the lines of the Dell price count be matched -- Well it can. The sourcing - took all of 5 minutes Literally. If I were like Dell and sold in bulk - many small profits add up to one larger one overall. Keep in mind that Dell would be buying components by the thousands, not one or two of, so their buy price would be next to bugger all. Lets have a look at your components then shall we, dont forget assembly time, and install with W7... edit- here are some prices 100 case\psu? 140 CPU 130 Mobo 150 RAM 80 HDD 170 O/S 770 Total without CL build price of 120 |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1171801 | 2011-01-23 22:41:00 | Acer? http://www.firstin.co.nz |
Ofthesea (14129) | ||
| 1171802 | 2011-01-23 23:13:00 | LOL, so your 2006 Dell is still working?, must be a miracle going by some of the posts in this thread. The hard drive originally in it is dead though. Compare that to Dad's nine year old hard drive which still works perfectly. It's had a bit of a rough life as well, screwed up the BIOS somehow while experimenting with Windows 95 :waughh: |
pcuser42 (130) | ||
| 1171803 | 2011-01-24 00:26:00 | Acer? http://www.firstin.co.nz Acer = ECS motherboards = :badpc: FirstIN = Colin Brown. Say no more. |
pctek (84) | ||
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