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| Thread ID: 111886 | 2010-08-15 21:57:00 | Some welfare stats. | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 1128142 | 2010-08-16 21:09:00 | Also they seem to have a little division in the ranks at the moment for some reason. There is always a tendency to lose sight of the ball in politics,power tends to corrupt. The principles remain,which will always remain hidden to fence sitters. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1128143 | 2010-08-16 21:11:00 | A sole parent says she has lost a sixth of her bodyweight because she has not been able to eat properly since the Government tightened access to training subsidies for beneficiaries last year. Sara, a 35-year-old West Auckland mother in her second year of an applied science degree at Unitec, gets $517 a week in welfare but needs $668 a week to pay rent, drive to her classes and run a home for herself and her 12-year-old daughter - a shortfall of $151 a week. Her doctor advised her to go to the Waitakere office of Social Development Minister Paula Bennett because her weight had dropped from 59kg to just under 50kg since early last year as a result of her not being able to afford food. Ms Bennett's office made an appointment for her with Work and Income's Westgate manager, but the agency could come up with only an extra $4 a week. The Herald supplied her full details to Ms Bennett and to Work and Income's head office in Wellington, which confirmed that she is receiving her "full and correct entitlement". Beneficiary advocate Pam Apera said cases like Sara's were common and she was fielding a growing number of calls from beneficiaries who could see no way out except suicide. Ms Apera said she could not see anything that could be cut in Sara's weekly spending. She does not smoke and has not bought an alcoholic drink since last year. She survives only by economising on food. Income * DPB + Temporary Additional Support (net of repayments to Work and Income for benefit advances) - $289.86 pw * Accommodation supplement - $125.00 pw * Family support (one child aged 12) - $86.00 pw * Disability allowance - $16.46 pw TOTAL - $517.32 pw Fixed costs * Rent (2.5-bedroom flat in West Auckland) - $295.00 pw * Petrol (to Unitec Mt Albert 5 days pw + hospital visits etc) - $90.00 pw * Debt repayments (credit card + HP for child's clothes & shoes) - $50.00 pw * Power - $38.00 pw * Child's bus home from intermediate school - $27.00 pw * Phone/internet (required for study) - $26.00 pw * Parking (Unitec) - $12.00 pw * Medical costs (fixed weekly payment to friendly GP) - $10.00 pw * Water bill - $10.00 pw * Fines (no WOF or rego on car - still can't afford WOF) - $10.00 pw TOTAL - $568.00 pw Net deficit before food - $50.68 pw Deficit allowing $100 for food - $150.68 pw |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1128144 | 2010-08-16 23:20:00 | so she is earning an average wage and still cant figure it out, imagine if she had to earn it | rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 1128145 | 2010-08-16 23:56:00 | A sole parent says she has lost a sixth of her bodyweight because she has not been able to eat properly since the Government tightened access to training subsidies for beneficiaries last year. Sara, a 35-year-old West Auckland mother in her second year of an applied science degree at Unitec, gets $517 a week in welfare but needs $668 a week to pay rent, drive to her classes and run a home for herself and her 12-year-old daughter - a shortfall of $151 a week. Her doctor advised her to go to the Waitakere office of Social Development Minister Paula Bennett because her weight had dropped from 59kg to just under 50kg since early last year as a result of her not being able to afford food. Ms Bennett's office made an appointment for her with Work and Income's Westgate manager, but the agency could come up with only an extra $4 a week. The Herald supplied her full details to Ms Bennett and to Work and Income's head office in Wellington, which confirmed that she is receiving her "full and correct entitlement". Beneficiary advocate Pam Apera said cases like Sara's were common and she was fielding a growing number of calls from beneficiaries who could see no way out except suicide. Ms Apera said she could not see anything that could be cut in Sara's weekly spending. She does not smoke and has not bought an alcoholic drink since last year. She survives only by economising on food. Income * DPB + Temporary Additional Support (net of repayments to Work and Income for benefit advances) - $289.86 pw * Accommodation supplement - $125.00 pw * Family support (one child aged 12) - $86.00 pw * Disability allowance - $16.46 pw TOTAL - $517.32 pw Fixed costs * Rent (2.5-bedroom flat in West Auckland) - $295.00 pw * Petrol (to Unitec Mt Albert 5 days pw + hospital visits etc) - $90.00 pw * Debt repayments (credit card + HP for child's clothes & shoes) - $50.00 pw * Power - $38.00 pw * Child's bus home from intermediate school - $27.00 pw * Phone/internet (required for study) - $26.00 pw * Parking (Unitec) - $12.00 pw * Medical costs (fixed weekly payment to friendly GP) - $10.00 pw * Water bill - $10.00 pw * Fines (no WOF or rego on car - still can't afford WOF) - $10.00 pw TOTAL - $568.00 pw Net deficit before food - $50.68 pw Deficit allowing $100 for food - $150.68 pw All looks about right unless one wants to nit pick. 1 income and welfare families do it very hard poor buggers. This is not just a NZ problem however, but small comfort. |
Battleneter2 (9361) | ||
| 1128146 | 2010-08-17 00:19:00 | $500 for doing nothing :eek: why get work :confused: do we just give her more than the avg wage then? that the solution. many would work and get $500 and then solve their own problems. i bus, i can use internet at school if i cannot afford it, well studylink doesn't help me for infringement fines and finance companies ... GP? Don't they have student health - greatly subsidised than a normal GP. What about living with others. Well students to rent a whole flat to themselves even a studio, can pretty expensive going eh .... Oh .. I am a uni student and i want to rent a whole house with a internal access garage and drive to uni every morning, :lol: for a couple of yrs now working, I have never driven to work apart from 1 day which there is a (1) free carpark that we can request when I went skiing straight after work but now don't bother cos the traffic. I can bus home, shower, eat before I drive up.. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1128147 | 2010-08-17 00:43:00 | $500 for doing nothing :eek: why get work :confused: do we just give her more than the avg wage then? that the solution. many would work and get $500 and then solve their own problems. i bus, i can use internet at school if i cannot afford it, well studylink doesn't help me for infringement fines and finance companies ... GP? Don't they have student health - greatly subsidised than a normal GP. What about living with others. Well students to rent a whole flat to themselves even a studio, can pretty expensive going eh .... Oh .. I am a uni student and i want to rent a whole house with a internal access garage and drive to uni every morning, :lol: for a couple of yrs now working, I have never driven to work apart from 1 day which there is a (1) free carpark that we can request when I went skiing straight after work but now don't bother cos the traffic. I can bus home, shower, eat before I drive up.. Never enough for our resident do gooders and losers. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1128148 | 2010-08-17 01:02:00 | Sell the car as she cannot maintain it. The 12yr old is old enof for public transport, ever heard of school buses? Get out of her rented place, find somewhere closer and nearer to public transport, get something smaller, cheaper maybe even an apartment if she can walk to school. Not sure about getting a boarder - that's counted as income right and might affect her entitlements. While the 12yr is at school, she can use the free campus computers for internet which is already paid for. Use Student Health. Man, I even used Student Dental. At home she can just use MS Word and type her assignment up, bring back books from the library. When I was a student, uni had internet, but at the halls of residence, it wasn't connected to the LAN, nor did it have dialup, so we had no internet unless we paid for our own phoneline and then paid for our own ISP. Most students didn't even have a computer. |
Nomad (952) | ||
| 1128149 | 2010-08-17 01:15:00 | I knew that would start a rant. Somewhere smaller and cheaper? What's cheaper in Auckland? Had a look at rents lately? And it's no like she is sitting on her bum - she is studying. I'd say that means she wants a decent job and the ability to get off her benefit once she's finished. Geez, give her a chance......... |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1128150 | 2010-08-17 01:20:00 | I reckon the child support thing needs a real good look, I look after my daughter more than the mum, yet Im paying $300 every pay to the silly cow, yet she works, receives grants and student allowance. Although I pay mine to keep the peace, men just have no say in anything, I mean my first phone call was from IRD saying pay this much by this date or face a fine of $2000. Awesome. Nothing against you Rob, but really, I find it astounding that so many couples have children out of marriage. Its just too easy to walk away. 2000 teenages having children?..***, they should be made to adopt if you ask me, they are UNABLE to look after themselves let alone bring up a baby.. Nothing you can do about invalids or sickness though I think some sickness bene are just a scam, cant stop DPB for current bene, which leaves unemployed. If there are no job, there are no jobs, however anyone who isnt working after a 1 year is NOT doing enough to find a job in my option. I dont care if you need training, need to move area or the job isnt to your liking! |
SolMiester (139) | ||
| 1128151 | 2010-08-17 01:48:00 | Useless ***** she gets more money than I pay myself and I support a non working wife and 2 kids. She must be blonde not to work out she needs to find cheaper rent out of town maybe move to a town in Central North Island. Dumb ****. Is she a widow? doubt it where is father of kids? lots of unanswered questions the press make me sick even reporting someone who is given their cheques for free at a rate higher than the minimum wage |
prefect (6291) | ||
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