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Thread ID: 115467 2011-01-19 12:27:00 Processors, better or worse? The Error Guy (14052) Press F1
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1171035 2011-01-19 20:54:00 Are the sandy bridge processors in laptops yet?
They have a pretty nice graphics thing integrated into them.

As far as I'm aware, it's not good enough for any serious gaming though, it's about equivalent of a Radeon 4550 / GeForce 9400. Fine if you just want something that can run WoW but if you want genuine graphics grunt it's not up to the task.
inphinity (7274)
1171036 2011-01-19 21:06:00 the intel graphics are about the same as a radeon 5450 I think, so not quite usable for games.

The turbo boost works even when all 4 cores are active, its just a smaller boost the one you get when only one core is needed.

If your notebook has an express card slot, you can use desktop graphics cards with them.
utopian201 (6245)
1171037 2011-01-19 21:37:00 However most lower end laptops don't have them, since students and teachers rarely need anything more than usb and headphone outs, and perhaps a DVD player and burner.

And sandy bridge cpu's are a bit too new, you'll have to wait a little bit before they start filtering down to laptops here.
8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1171038 2011-01-19 23:33:00 If you WERE gaming on a laptop which is the best processor?

It would never happen. I would never game on a laptop. In fact I don't have a laptop for any purpose at all.

Apart from the lack of gaming abilities, they also can't be upgraded either. If I was forced to game on something that wasn't a proper PC I'd buy a PS3.
pctek (84)
1171039 2011-01-20 00:04:00 if I was after serious gaming, I would not be getting a laptop. unfortunately the boarding house prohibits desktop computers. That leaves only a laptop solution.

I have all ready checked out some applicable gfx cards that seem decent enough, considering the limited choice available.

I won't be gaming hard at all on this, mostly lower end games such as MW1 for LAN games and some single player FPS/RPG. Basicly, game wise I want enough to give me a decent frame rate and a few shiny bits. nothing epic.

So, it seems the general conclusion is that is should get the i5 dual core in favour of the AMD Quad?

Cheers for the input! I was walking myself around in circles with this lot.

Oh, and I'll only be keeping this thing (laptop) in general use for 1-3 years at the MOST. I finish school in another year or so, so I won't be needing a laptop :D :D
The Error Guy (14052)
1171040 2011-01-20 00:14:00 Well post up the rest of the specs and prices, we'll let you know :) 8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1171041 2011-01-20 00:49:00 i5 is the best all rounder there, even at its default speed, its faster than the Phenom SolMiester (139)
1171042 2011-01-20 01:00:00 Your dv6zse series


Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor AMD Phenom(TM) II Quad-Core Mobile Processor N970 (2.2GHz, 2MB L2 Cache) edit
Graphics card 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 6550 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] edit
Memory FREE Upgrade to 6GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) edit
Hard drive 640GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
Office software No Additional Office Software edit
Security software No additional security software edit
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 4.5 hours of battery life +++ edit
Display 15.6" diagonal High Definition LED HP Brightview Display (1366x768) edit
Touchscreen Multi touch TouchScreen (includes HP TrueVision Webcam) edit
Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support edit
Networking Wireless 802.11a/b/g/n Card with Bluetooth (Dual Band) edit
Keyboard Backlit Keyboard with HP SimplePass Fingerprint Reader edit


And the i5


Color: black cherry


Your dv7t series


Color black cherry edit
Operating system Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit edit
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-580M Dual Core Processor (2.66GHz, 3MB L3 Cache) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz edit
Graphics card 1GB ATI Mobility Radeon(TM) HD 5650 switchable graphics [HDMI, VGA] - For Dual Core Processors edit
Memory 4GB DDR3 System Memory (2 Dimm) edit
Hard drive 500GB 7200RPM Hard Drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection edit
Office software No Additional Office Software edit
Security software No additional security software edit
Primary battery 6 Cell Lithium Ion Battery (standard) - Up to 5.0 hours of battery life +++ edit
Keyboard Standard Keyboard edit
Display 17.3" diagonal HD+ High-Definition HP LED BrightView Widescreen Display (1600 x 900) edit
Primary optical drive SuperMulti 8X DVD+/-R/RW with Double Layer Support edit
Personalization HP TrueVision Webcam with Integrated Digital Microphone edit
Networking Intel Wireless-N Card with Bluetooth edit

Sorry about the messy specs. this netbook i'm using has a TINY screen and its too hard to edit everything to be easy to read. copied direct from the HP custom site.

So sorry again :(
The Error Guy (14052)
1171043 2011-01-20 01:37:00 the i5 one sounds miles better. I first thought the graphics card would be worse than the amd one but it seems the 6550 is just a renamed 5650 with a few tweaks.
So yeah, get the second one I would say.

www.notebookcheck.net
www.notebookcheck.net

Just see what you can find out about the cooling setup though.
I've seen topics around here recently about dv6 and dv5's with crappy cooling that overheat to 90 degrees idle or something ridiculous.
8ftmetalhaed (14526)
1171044 2011-01-20 02:57:00 It's because they run the Gfx and the CPU from the same heatpipe, under heavy CPU and GPU loads the system cannot cope with the heat.

But cooling is fixable (with case "tweaks") :D but only if it does seem problematic. I know 2x people with DV6's and they run fine (i5's too!!)

The whole reason I confused myself was because I thought i5's had a quad core model, then I realised about the hyper threading. and went off in a wild search for a "real" quad core
The Error Guy (14052)
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