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Thread ID: 111959 2010-08-18 07:34:00 Climte Change. Cicero (40) PC World Chat
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1129053 2010-08-18 09:14:00 Nahhhh, raise you two. :lol:

www.nzherald.co.nz

So what conclusion have you come to,that is the question.?
Cicero (40)
1129054 2010-08-18 10:02:00 ....it spewed out more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than the entire human race had emitted in its entire 40 MILLION YEARS on earth.
I stopped reading after the highlighted part.

I don't know if anything else the author has claimed is credible or not but he/she sounds like a cynical and idiotic schoolboy foaming at the mouth.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
1129055 2010-08-18 10:02:00 Well, despite the naysayers and the overhypers - can we not ignore the fact that icecaps are melting and sea levels are rising? Surely that means something is happening? SoniKalien (792)
1129056 2010-08-18 10:18:00 Well, despite the naysayers and the overhypers - can we not ignore the fact that icecaps are melting and sea levels are rising? Surely that means something is happening?

Probably means the icecaps are melting and sea levels rising,but I could be wrong,so don't quote me.

I have said this b4,we listen to the views,then take a side,we that are right have chosen not to believe the non naysayers and those that are wrong choose the other side,fools.
Cicero (40)
1129057 2010-08-18 10:50:00 Citizens of any country in the grip of Politicians sucked into risking their counties' economies to satisfy greenie Global Warming crusaders, should read the following two books:
"The Real Global Warming Disaster: Is The Obsession With `Climate Change` Turning Out To Be The Most Costly Scientific Blunder In History? "
Author - Christopher Booker

AND
"An Appeal to Reason: A Cool Look at Global Warming"
Author -Nigel Lawson ( former UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, and Minister for Energy)]

The message is quite simple - the case that Global Warming, if it is in fact going on, is man made is at the very best not proven, and with the current world population there is no possibility of mankind making the sufficient cuts in fossil fuel consumption, to achieve any reducyion, even if the current movement in world temperatures is man made.

One unhappy fact is that if the Greenies advice was taken in a futile attempt to counteract the supposed global warming, then the world could not support the existing human population.

Anyone volunteering to be culled for the common good? -
Battlenetter 2 are you going to volunteer?
KenESmith (6287)
1129058 2010-08-18 10:53:00 I believe its common courtesy as well as correct academic practice to cite references when quoting someone else.
Or are you claiming authorship Cicero?

It is probably his old mate Mewriel Newman. Sounds like her usual level of gob foaming.
John H (8)
1129059 2010-08-18 11:01:00 It is probably his old mate Mewriel Newman. Sounds like her usual level of gob foaming.
Well whoever he/she may be he/she needs to take paleoanthropology 101 at the very least.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
1129060 2010-08-18 11:09:00 Sadly Cic, none of the above polemic is new information. Volcanism is well known as a significant contributor of greenhouse gases and carbon release. Interestingly volcanos also play a part in cooling because the ash clouds in the troposphere block sunlight, thus cooling us a little.

However this is all misdirected puffery. The real issue is pollution. That is what carbon credits, recycling, emission controls etc are aimed at preventing.

Global warming is a side effect of polluting the planet's environment and we are too late to stop that. We can however clean the land and air.
Winston001 (3612)
1129061 2010-08-18 11:30:00 The message is quite simple - the case that Global Warming, if it is in fact going on, is man made is at the very best not proven, and with the current world population there is no possibility of mankind making the sufficient cuts in fossil fuel consumption, to achieve any reducyion, even if the current movement in world temperatures is man made.

One unhappy fact is that if the Greenies advice was taken in a futile attempt to counteract the supposed global warming, then the world could not support the existing human population.



I completely agree. Humans are basically selfish and will not give up a comfortable lifestyle because of an imagined future threat.

The Earth's biosphere cannot sustain 6.7 billion people. Eventually we will run out of food, water, and resources at which point war, pestilence and famine will preside. Here in NZ we are protected by oceans from this miasma so can count ourselves very lucky.

What we can do is clean our water and air. It would also pay to develop more self-reliance - much of our technology comes from overseas.
Winston001 (3612)
1129062 2010-08-18 12:08:00 I completely agree. Humans are basically selfish and will not give up a comfortable lifestyle because of an imagined future threat.

The Earth's biosphere cannot sustain 6.7 billion people. Eventually we will run out of food, water, and resources at which point war, pestilence and famine will preside. Here in NZ we are protected by oceans from this miasma so can count ourselves very lucky.
I think the earth can comfortably sustain 6.7 billion people, maybe even more. This will however come at a cost - completely drop the first world lifestyle and adopt a simpler, less-waste lifestyle and this planet will easily accommodate everyone.

But we all know that's impossible. I reckon at this rate the first matchstick would probably be water supplies. Then worldwide famine, global economic collapse, third world countries breaking out massive wars here and there, first world countries will also suffer but the rich will remain comfortable but still complaining. In short, business as usual - only multiplied in severity.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
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