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1172070 2011-01-24 00:31:00 Hi All, looking to buy something to replace my 7 year old AMD + 1G RAM for general use but also able to Edit good quality home videos at a reasonable rate.

Have found this don't need a monitor

Power Upgrade Box $1060 inc GST
Intel Core i5 2500 3.30GHz CPU
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 Motherboard (1155)
8GB Adata Dual Channel DDR3-1333 Memory
Gigabyte GV-N220OC-1GI PCIE Video Card, 1GB DDR3
Vantec TSX-300 Mid ATX Steel Tower Case, 520w PSU, Black
Integrated Sound
Integrated 10/100/1000 Network


Optional Additions:
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit DVD (OEM) $224.00
500Gb Western Digital WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue SATA3 Hard Drive $72.00
1TB Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black SATA3 Hard Drive $140.00


Optional Upgrades:
Intel Core i7 2600 3.40GHz CPU $138.00
Gigabyte GV-N450OC-1GI GTS 450 PCIE Video Card, 1GB DDR3 $74.00

Would add W7 & HDD I have studio plus12 as well. Would it be reasonable? :thanks
Arnie (6624)
1172071 2011-01-24 00:44:00 Hi All, looking to buy something to replace my 7 year old AMD + 1G RAM for general use but also able to Edit good quality home videos at a reasonable rate.

Have found this don't need a monitor

Power Upgrade Box $1060 inc GST
Intel Core i5 2500 3.30GHz CPU
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3 Motherboard (1155)
8GB Adata Dual Channel DDR3-1333 Memory
Gigabyte GV-N220OC-1GI PCIE Video Card, 1GB DDR3
Vantec TSX-300 Mid ATX Steel Tower Case, 520w PSU, Black
Integrated Sound
Integrated 10/100/1000 Network


Optional Additions:
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit DVD (OEM) $224.00
500Gb Western Digital WD5000AAKX Caviar Blue SATA3 Hard Drive $72.00
1TB Western Digital WD1002FAEX Caviar Black SATA3 Hard Drive $140.00


Optional Upgrades:
Intel Core i7 2600 3.40GHz CPU $138.00
Gigabyte GV-N450OC-1GI GTS 450 PCIE Video Card, 1GB DDR3 $74.00

Would add W7 & HDD I have studio plus12 as well. Would it be reasonable? :thanks

Hi, the CPU is the latest Sandy Bridge Intel tick product, and by all accounts just so far ahead of the competition its not funny....Gigabyte are a tier 1 manufacturer so all good there too. Nice amount of RAM and the USB 3 and SATA 3 will give good I/O throughput, as Intel now support these standards natively instead of the Marvel chip.
The Graphic card is now 3 generations old and doesnt support DX11, however still not a bad card and CUDA support will help offloading from the CPU for supported applications, not that you will need it with the CPU...Personally, for an extra $75, I would go current gen with the GTS450..

All in all, the difference between your existing PC and this is night and day...at least 5 times quicker!
SolMiester (139)
1172072 2011-01-24 00:58:00 It's not bad at all, and seriously better than a 7 yr old machine.

As to offloading to CUDA, sandy bridge's onboard video encoding is faster but you'd have to use onboard Video and appropriate software to benefit from it (just an interesting bit of trivia). And unless you plan to be a gamer i wouldn't worry about upgrading the graphics (I'm guessing with a 7 yr old pc this hasn't been a priority to date)

Edit:nice PC but as to the price I'm not sure, I know for eg I can get OEM win7 for about $170 but if they are installing it the extra may be justified. It would be worth comparing prices with computerlounge or pp.co.nz and your local PC store
dugimodo (138)
1172073 2011-01-24 01:06:00 I'm pretty sure if you use discrete graphics, you can't use the sandy bridge video encoding (called quick sync). It is supported by only two applications currently anyway.

Also CUDA accelerated video encoding results in lower quality compared to software mode encoding. It surprises me the number of times people suggest using a discrete graphics card for video encoding. You only encode once but watch multiple times.

Software mode:
images.anandtech.com
CUDA:
images.anandtech.com
utopian201 (6245)
1172074 2011-01-24 01:41:00 I'm pretty sure if you use discrete graphics, you can't use the sandy bridge video encoding (called quick sync). It is supported by only two applications currently anyway.

Also CUDA accelerated video encoding results in lower quality compared to software mode encoding. It surprises me the number of times people suggest using a discrete graphics card for video encoding. You only encode once but watch multiple times.

Software mode:
images.anandtech.com
CUDA:
images.anandtech.com

??, Dont know about you, but CUDA example looks better IMO with those samples...
At any rate, Photoshop wont offload to SB
SolMiester (139)
1172075 2011-01-24 01:56:00 hhmm, in what way do you see the better quality in the GTX460 example? :)

I think the cuda example is grainier (eg around the headlights of the police car) and looks like the movie has been strained through an 'old scratchy film' filter.
utopian201 (6245)
1172076 2011-01-24 02:17:00 hhmm, in what way do you see the better quality in the GTX460 example? :)

I think the cuda example is grainier (eg around the headlights of the police car) and looks like the movie has been strained through an 'old scratchy film' filter.

More of the picture is reproduced in the 460 sample....and as said, SB offload to photoshop...

edit - another look does have CUDA grainier, however this could be drivers issues!
SolMiester (139)
1172077 2011-01-24 02:23:00 Thanks all for comments, I have dealt with this Ch Ch company for 7 years and have purchased heaps from them for work (before I retired) and home and never had a problem.:banana

Have to agree with you Utopian201 software mode does look better noted it on the road area esp. Sorry SoMiester. Still a learner when it comes to the Tech side so your comments are appreciated. Now ALL I have to do is convince SWMBO to get the card out again:rolleyes::rolleyes:
Arnie (6624)
1172078 2011-01-24 02:28:00 Thanks all for comments, I have dealt with this Ch Ch company for 7 years and have purchased heaps from them for work (before I retired) and home and never had a problem.:banana

Have to agree with you Utopian201 software mode does look better noted it on the road area esp. Sorry SoMiester. Still a learner when it comes to the Tech side so your comments are appreciated. Now ALL I have to do is convince SWMBO to get the card out again:rolleyes::rolleyes:

The software version will be fine, as the CPU selected is no slough, thats for sure....The CUDA instruction set is on both cards so you can select as required anyway...
You will enjoy the speed on the new machine without question, wish I could run an upgrade past the wife!
SolMiester (139)
1172079 2011-01-24 03:14:00 Power Upgrade Box $1060 inc GST

• Vantec TSX-300 Mid ATX Steel Tower Case, 520w PSU, Black


That's the only part I don't like - PSU with case.
Get a brand PSU - Corsair, Enermax in it instead.
And I don't like this on their website:
Warranty
1 Year RTB Warranty

Gigabyte for instance has a 3 yr warranty - Motherboards, Graphics cards.
CPU is 3 years.
Western Digital HDDs are 3 years too.

Tastech isn't rated too highly for after sales service - that is for RMAs and such.
pctek (84)
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