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Thread ID: 112012	2010-08-20 04:07:00	Whats it all about?	Cicero (40)	PC World Chat

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1129802	2010-08-21 06:15:00	guys commit suicide over women. All problems my mates have had have been caused by women and girl friend problems. Its a fact guys take breakups hard especially when the partner has been rooting around or starts rooting around when they break up. Not that most females give a toss about the carnage that follows, a few months later they are shacked up with someone else and the cycle is sometimes repeated. lots of mates go off the rails with woman problems. Its something guys have to sort out amongst themselves because women are just so totally unsympathetic. . girls commit suicide over men. All problems my mates have had have been caused by men and boy friend problems. Its a fact girls take breakups hard especially when the partner has been rooting around or starts rooting around when they break up. Not that most males give a toss about the carnage that follows, a few months later they are shacked up with someone else and the cycle is sometimes repeated. lots of mates go off the rails with man problems. Its something girls have to sort out amongst themselves because men are just so totally unsympathetic.	pctek (84)
1129803	2010-08-21 06:17:00	I am not up to date with stats, but there used to be a relatively high rate of suicide in the gay community. However, the highest rates per head of population (not the highest numbers) were in the older male age group. No-one has ever taken any action regarding this statistic (except for some work that was done with farmers when the rates got really high in drought areas). It is a bit like prostate cancer - higher incidence and mortality rates than breast cancer, but the Ministry of Health policy wallahs aren't interested in us old farts. I guess the thought process is 1) they are men so who gives a toss, and b) we have had our lives and youth are a higher priority. I can't argue with the second argument I suppose - I would put the priority there too. But we are our own worst enemies because we don't cause a fuss about minor things like male health issues. The guy who used to run the TV gardening programme (Eion Scarrow?) tried to get a prostate cancer campaign going, but he was a lone voice. Similar with older male suicide I guess - the rates may be high, but the numbers are relatively low, so why put any resources into it. As far as Cicero's question is concerned, there must be quite a number of older men who can't answer it to their own satisfaction.	John H (8)
1129804	2010-08-21 06:19:00	@pctek - it used to be that more women/girls attempted suicide than males, but they were less successful - more men died per head of population because the methods they used were more violent and they succeeded at a higher rate. I am not sure what the current stats are on this.	John H (8)
1129805	2010-08-21 07:35:00	Perhaps self-destruction is a species compulsion? Look how many voted National ;)	R2x1 (4628)
1129806	2010-08-21 08:49:00	Lemmings.	John H (8)
1129807	2010-08-21 09:57:00	@pctek - it used to be that more women/girls attempted suicide than males, but they were less successful - more men died per head of population because the methods they used were more violent and they succeeded at a higher rate. I am not sure what the current stats are on this. For some women it is a cry for help and they don't truly want to top themselves. A couple of weeks ago a friends son topped himself and the week after a young lad that was at the funeral did the same. Very sad.	mikebartnz (21)
1129808	2010-08-22 03:09:00	I was sitting there being inundated like the rest of us,with the Pakistan catastrophe and it occurred to me that my mates son should have half of the problems that lot have got and he would have had good reason to give in.	Cicero (40)
1129809	2010-08-22 05:29:00	I just saw part of a Parkinson interview at lunch time. He was interviewing Joan Rivers (whose husband committed suicide - she said they were making love and she took the bag off her head, and in one bound "Superjew" jumped out the window), Stephen Fry, and George Michael (or Michael George, I can never remember which). All had contemplated suicide at one stage in their life. Parky said something about them all being famous, rich and successful, and surely that meant they had no reason to commit suicide? Stephen Fry said, yes, that was logical, but logic doesn't come into it. He said that when you are in that state (contemplating suicide) basically nothing outside yourself is important or could stop you. Something like that anyway. Sadly, if Fry's theory is true, I guess your mate's son was not thinking logically or comparatively about how good he has it in life. And on a slightly frivolous note, did you want to eat your junket or whatever you hated, when your mother said "think of the starving millions in Asia"?	John H (8)
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