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Thread ID: 115638	2011-01-27 19:02:00	Nuke, Wipe, or Format ?	Strommer (42)	Press F1

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1173190	2011-01-27 21:23:00	After the first automatic reboot, CHKDSK appeared. This is similar to the two previous runs of CHKDSK (which did not fix the errors). Maybe the CHKDSK errors are not the same as before. I cannot recall exactly. Is it usual to get CHKDSK errors when installing Win7? Should I be concerned that there may be some sort of physical damage to the hd (which is only 2 months old)?	Strommer (42)
1173191	2011-01-27 21:48:00	No it is not usual, especially not if you formatted the drive. I would strongly advise checking the HDD SMART with one of the programs I mentioned before. If the HDD seems to check out OK, try changing the cable.	Agent_24 (57)
1173192	2011-01-27 22:11:00	No it is not usual, especially not if you formatted the drive. I would strongly advise checking the HDD SMART with one of the programs I mentioned before. If the HDD seems to check out OK, try changing the cable. I did run Seagate Tools for half a day and the hd checked out OK. SMART was the first test but I did all the others including long passes. What were the other "programs you mentioned before"?	Strommer (42)
1173193	2011-01-27 23:55:00	HDAT2 or Speedfan. HDAT2 can be booted from Floppy\CD etc so its good for use if you don't have any OS installed. Speedfan would be easier if you have Windows running. You could also boot a LiveCD of the recent version of Ubuntu and use the Disk Utility in there to view SMART data. Seatools is OK but doesn't always report on minor errors, or errors which indicate a failure down the line. SMART will log all errors but Seatools will only alert you to a problem once a certain threshold for errors is reached. With programs like Speedfan etc you can view the raw SMART data and decide for yourself if the drive is bad or not. For example: Reallocated sectors - Say that a drive did not consider itself failing until the failed sectors count was 30 or higher, but if you already had 15 reallocated sectors then the drive would be on its way to failure anyway. I personally consider even one reallocated sector the sign of a drive starting to go bad.	Agent_24 (57)
1173194	2011-01-28 00:09:00	Totally agree with what Agent posted. If chkdsk always runs after a install, especially on a new install. As long as the partitions were deleted as previously mentioned, theres generally only one of two reasons. 1. Hardware failing somewhere. ( could even be the Optical drive not reading the the DVD correctly) see#2. 2. The DVD you are installing from has a corrupted image/Install files , and is not loading in correctly. In a case like this, I'd try first another W7 DVD if you had one. Is the DVD a MS supplied one, or one thats been made from an ISO image ?	wainuitech (129)
1173195	2011-01-28 01:06:00	HDAT2 or Speedfan. HDAT2 can be booted from Floppy\CD etc so its good for use if you don't have any OS installed. ... With programs like Speedfan etc you can view the raw SMART data and decide for yourself if the drive is bad or not. Thks, I will get those programs and see what they find. If the hd is failing after only 2 months, my opinion of Seagate will drop even lower. Totally agree with what Agent posted. If chkdsk always runs after a install, especially on a new install. As long as the partitions were deleted as previously mentioned, theres generally only one of two reasons. 1. Hardware failing somewhere. ( could even be the Optical drive not reading the the DVD correctly) see# 2. 2. The DVD you are installing from has a corrupted image/Install files , and is not loading in correctly. In a case like this, I'd try first another W7 DVD if you had one. Is the DVD a MS supplied one, or one thats been made from an ISO image ? I did not delete partitions; I ran a format on partition C and left the other partition with the data (although I have that data on a second hd - and third as well.) Perhaps it is the optical drive. The Win7 disk is genuine MS, OEM, purchased a month ago along with the new mb, cpu, ram. After running Agent's two programs, I will do a CHKDSK yet again. Will get back here with the results - within the next day or 2 or 3. :thumbs: Thanks much for the assistance. :thumbs:	Strommer (42)
1173196	2011-01-28 01:13:00	You don't need to run both, one or the other will work just fine. If Windows is up and running then Speedfan will be the easiest (and it has an online diagnostic function which interprets the SMART data for you)	Agent_24 (57)
1173197	2011-01-28 01:15:00	Thks, I will get those programs and see what they find . If the hd is failing after only 2 months, my opinion of Seagate will drop even lower . I did not delete partitions; I ran a format on partition C and left the other partition with the data (although I have that data on a second hd - and third as well . ) Educated guess-- :nerd: Theres the Problem !!!! chkdsk is picking up damaged data or something on the old partitions or other attached Drives . All the drive testing software in the world wont fix it, if they are still there and theres corruption .	wainuitech (129)
1173198	2011-01-28 01:20:00	But if that was the case shouldn't CHKDSK have fixed the problem already after running multiple times?	Agent_24 (57)
1173199	2011-01-28 01:51:00	No , Not always. chkdsk doesnt always fix problems. I've had many times where chkdsk wants to run on corrupted drives, and no matter how often it runs the corruption is still there. Its a bit like having a corrupted Operating system, sometimes no matter what commands or processes you run, its knackered. In this case, because old partitions and data are still prescent, its always going to be a question as to wheather thats the cause. The only way to tell for sure is remove all partitions and slaved drives and start with a clean slate. IF it still does it, then at least its elimated one possible cause.	wainuitech (129)
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