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| Thread ID: 112044 | 2010-08-21 10:18:00 | Te Reo story confusion | Snorkbox (15764) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 1130313 | 2010-08-22 06:41:00 | Education is compulsory. | Metla (12) | ||
| 1130314 | 2010-08-22 06:50:00 | Education is compulsory. Yes, you just remade you point about "youth Resentment". You must have had a tiring week, and a plesant weekend. Hows the well thing going. |
angry (15305) | ||
| 1130315 | 2010-08-22 10:58:00 | The language of this country is ENGLISH the english language is THIS COUNTRYS LANGUAGE OF BUSINESS. angry, sometimes you can be a total wally and a prat. Maybe that is why you are angry all the time. There are three official languages in this country. English, Māori, and NZ Sign Language. I am with Metla on this one. I have been in hundreds of meetings over the last 20 years where Māori is the first language; indeed over the past decade I have often been the only Pākehā in a meeting. To be monolingual like me is to be at a great disadvantage. We never got the opportunity to learn Māori at school - only French and Latin (which I didn't do), and I have found it impossible to learn another language in adulthood. Yet I see my grandchildren learning Māori as a normal part of their school curriculum, and it is brilliant. They enjoy it, and they share it with me - particularly the waiata. Why does it not surprise me that you support the racist regime in Israel? |
John H (8) | ||
| 1130316 | 2010-08-22 11:12:00 | I used to be really against children learning Maori. Now I am not so much against it, if it is just an hour or so a month. Thos 40% need to realise that Maori is a very small language with not many words, it is not written, so it has very little literature, and it does not have words for many feelings and expressions that other languages do. It is really only useful for ceremonies and tourism. I would like to see them do a poll on what people think about Maori people learning how to speak and write English properly. (especially the younger ones) Many of them that you see on tv etc can't even put a coherent sentence together. It always amazes me, that if they interview an African, or Indian child on tv their diction is very good. Poor education is why the is a very big Maori prison population. They need to value education, like most other cultures of the world do. And they need to get away from this victim mentatilty that they cannot learn western concepts in western schools. Just about every other race in the world can. And before anyone says I am racist, most of my friends are Maori, and my 4 children are half caste. |
Digby (677) | ||
| 1130317 | 2010-08-22 11:18:00 | Poor education is why there is a very big Maori prison population. They need to value education, like most other cultures of the world do. And they need to get away from this victim mentatilty that they cannot learn western concepts in western schools. Just about every other race in the world can. Spot on, they try to blame us pakeha for them not wanting to learn and put in the effort required to get a good solid education. |
xyz823 (13649) | ||
| 1130318 | 2010-08-22 11:39:00 | I used to be really against children learning Maori. Now I am not so much against it, if it is just an hour or so a month. Thos 40% need to realise that Maori is a very small language with not many words, it is not written, so it has very little literature, and it does not have words for many feelings and expressions that other languages do. It is really only useful for ceremonies and tourism. I would like to see them do a poll on what people think about Maori people learning how to speak and write English properly. (especially the younger ones) Many of them that you see on tv etc can't even put a coherent sentence together. It always amazes me, that if they interview an African, or Indian child on tv their diction is very good. Poor education is why the is a very big Maori prison population. They need to value education, like most other cultures of the world do. And they need to get away from this victim mentatilty that they cannot learn western concepts in western schools. Just about every other race in the world can. And before anyone says I am racist, most of my friends are Maori, and my 4 children are half caste. well said that man :thumbs: |
GameJunkie (72) | ||
| 1130319 | 2010-08-22 12:37:00 | they ran that survey and claim 40% support for their agenda and we never heard or saw anything about said survey. I would have to say that said results are at the least, majorly flawed. 95% of the parents with school age children i know of have NO INTREST WHAT SO EVER in their children wasteing their time on a dead and useless language. It's not dead - still spoken on TV and maraes at funerals. How is maori language useless? You mean it's not global...like chinese? |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1130320 | 2010-08-22 14:57:00 | I have no objection to Maori language being taught wherever. But then should all those that live in the USA be taught American Red Indian and if so which tribe should it be? Or all Canadians should learn French maybe? The purpose of language is surely to communicate. |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1130321 | 2010-08-22 23:27:00 | I used to be really against children learning Maori. Now I am not so much against it, if it is just an hour or so a month. Thos 40% need to realise that Maori is a very small language with not many words, it is not written, so it has very little literature, and it does not have words for many feelings and expressions that other languages do. It is really only useful for ceremonies and tourism. I would like to see them do a poll on what people think about Maori people learning how to speak and write English properly. (especially the younger ones) Many of them that you see on tv etc can't even put a coherent sentence together. It always amazes me, that if they interview an African, or Indian child on tv their diction is very good. Poor education is why the is a very big Maori prison population. They need to value education, like most other cultures of the world do. And they need to get away from this victim mentatilty that they cannot learn western concepts in western schools. Just about every other race in the world can. And before anyone says I am racist, most of my friends are Maori, and my 4 children are half caste. I think it will take several years before maori will transform to an ideal education scenario. I recall in the 70's many maori were dropping out from college and not even attending, and it appears to be still occuring. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 1130322 | 2010-08-22 23:40:00 | Listening to late talk back on radio the other week, an elderly Irish lady (71 years she said) bemoaned the fact that she could speak Irish/Gaelic nor could her parents. I think she mentioned it was partly due to the British (not sure how). But it suggested that learning/knowing one's native language (or their ancestors) may be important for identity/spiritual (or whatever), rather than just for communication - as so many people seem to emphasis that aspect. For example most NZ's would rather learn money making/employment global languages than to ever bother with Maori - and perhaps that cannot be helped. |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
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