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| Thread ID: 112012 | 2010-08-20 04:07:00 | Whats it all about? | Cicero (40) | PC World Chat |
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| 1129792 | 2010-08-20 07:10:00 | What I am tyring to stress is.........who from an outsiders point of view has cause for despair?......... www.thehindu.com |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 1129793 | 2010-08-20 07:51:00 | I'm curious to know from those that have been down that dark path... how do you think you got there? Was it a slow process of your own thoughts / was it a chemical or hormonal issue influencing your thoughts / do you feel you were pushed there by work/family/friends? Also, what do you personally value as the things/thought processes that got you back out and have kept you out of trouble? Different thought processes/different approach to life and work / drugs / different attitude from those around you? From my own experiences (which haven't been dark), I've had some seemingly irrational stress issues. For a brief time I was freaking out at my work load. I'd look at the appointment list and just start to shake (and I can't work when shaking). A short course on some wonderfully addictive drugs (I'd love more of them) and some changes to the work environment and I'm back in action, but with a new respect of just how fragile we can be. The drugs were like having 4 beers down my gullet. Slurring, dragging my feet, but also taking life a lot less intensely and a lot more casually. Without the drugs I simply have to remind myself to slow down and just care a bit less about timetables, budgets and opinions. |
Paul.Cov (425) | ||
| 1129794 | 2010-08-20 07:53:00 | That is really tragic - what a waste of life. The difference between those who kill themselves and people in desperate situations, is having the will to live. |
Jen (38) | ||
| 1129795 | 2010-08-20 08:38:00 | I lost my best mate of 20 years to suicide last year, and we were only 35. He was one of those mates you knew wasn't going to be around for a long time no mater what help we gave him. Although I still grieve for him everyday, I know he is also at rest. Even from the early years of knowing him he had trouble, and it wasn't from lack of trying from friends and family. Nobody saw the signs and to be honest he was probably in the best frame of mind that he had been in years, maybe thats what it takes. | plod (107) | ||
| 1129796 | 2010-08-20 08:53:00 | As it was once for me I was at a party. Some booze and no drugs. I looked about and figured I had lots of acquaintances but damn all friends. I thought that no one would miss me if I was not around. I didn't do it but I did think about it briefly. Later I got married and she topped herself at age 20. I got over that one after deciding that it was not really my fault as I was advised she had tried twice before I met her. |
Snorkbox (15764) | ||
| 1129797 | 2010-08-20 09:16:00 | There's a lot of people trying to bring suicide into the open because of the high numbers involved ... more than drink drivers killing themselves & others. Look at the money being spent on Drink / drive compared to suicide prevention. Personally, I've lost a brother because he was diagnosed with a degenerative brain disease. Lost 2 good friends and come very close myself on more than 1 occasion. I may make jokes about SWMBO'd ... but if it wasn't for her and my kids, who knows. Both times I considered that particular option, I had had accidents that affected my whole life and couldn't see what the use of being here if I couldn't do what I enjoyed so much ... work, hunting, fishing, etc. One thing I would like to say is ... if you're serious about it, you don't talk about it. If it hadn't have been for wifey noticing something was up and giving me the support & getting the help I needed at the time, I wouldn't have told anyone. It's a bloody awful situation to be in and you if you're there, its not always possible to see a way out. Different people ... different reasons ... different outlooks on life ... |
SP8's (9836) | ||
| 1129798 | 2010-08-21 04:20:00 | I'm curious to know from those that have been down that dark path . . . how do you think you got there? I'm not being flippant, and I'd like to give you a concise answer . But there is no one answer . You could ask 100 different people why? and get 100 different answers . Possibly part of the answer lies in common peer reactions . A sibling, 10 years older than me, just ignored the comment when I told her I was suffering from clinical depression . A school friend of 50 years just said to harden up, so no help there . You just hide these things . But I do know I had an understanding GP, and the public health system came to the rescue with some impressive psychiatric and psychological help . I'll always be grateful to these professionals . And prepared to defend the public health system . :2cents: |
WalOne (4202) | ||
| 1129799 | 2010-08-21 05:45:00 | Its really sad that guys commit suicide over women they are just not worth it. All problems my mates have had have been caused by women and girl friend problems. You can give it a clinical term by calling it depression but I would call it woman problems. Its a fact guys take breakups hard especially when the partner has been rooting around or starts rooting around when they break up. Not that most females give a toss about the carnage that follows, a few months later they are shacked up with someone else and the cycle is sometimes repeated. Not sure early intervention by qualified help is much good if he sees his ex rooting around with somone else it will set him off again. Seen in 30 years lots of mates go off the rails with woman problems. Its something guys have to sort out amongst themselves because women are just so totally unsympathetic. I would like to explain these are just my observations of my mates over the years, I might have observed wrong I am not a clinician just a simpleton truck mechanic in West Auckland. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1129800 | 2010-08-21 05:54:00 | Clearly you don't have any gay friends then prefect. The only two people I have been associated with who took their own lives didn't have 'women problems'. Neither of them felt they belonged in this world, and they were better off getting out of it. One was gay, but that was not especially relevant to his decision. Both were amongst the top people I have known in 65 years in terms of IQ and creativity and they just couldn't see the point of this world. Neither of them was well supported by their families. They were both marginal to their families and marginal to the world. Both were deliberate suicides following deliberate decisions - not attention seeking. Both young males. Such a waste, in both cases. |
John H (8) | ||
| 1129801 | 2010-08-21 05:59:00 | No I dont or have ever had any gay friends other than two lesbians acquaintances. One in spares, other in engineering supply shop. | prefect (6291) | ||
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