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Thread ID: 112044 2010-08-21 10:18:00 Te Reo story confusion Snorkbox (15764) PC World Chat
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1130303 2010-08-21 10:18:00 Hi folks,

I have read this story several times and I can't make sense of the figures.

home.nzcity.co.nz
Snorkbox (15764)
1130304 2010-08-21 10:27:00 Hi folks,

I have read this story several times and I can't make sense of the figures.

home.nzcity.co.nz

they ran that survey and claim 40% support for their agenda and we never heard or saw anything about said survey.

I would have to say that said results are at the least, majorly flawed.

95% of the parents with school age children i know of have NO INTREST WHAT SO EVER in their children wasteing their time on a dead and useless language.
angry (15305)
1130305 2010-08-21 12:14:00 Once again bad reporting from NZcity

From RNZ


Some 38 percent of New Zealanders support the idea that the teaching of te reo Maori in
schools should become compulsory. A higher proportion of females than males support
the idea (42 percent as against 35 percent. Only a small proportion (four percent) of
respondents could not make up their minds and said ‘don’t know’
The support for compulsory teaching of te reo Maori in schools is highest among those in
the 15-34 year age group at 50 percent, and lowest among those in the age group 55
years and over, at 24 percent. ‘This reflects the very considerable change that has taken
place in the last 30 years’, Research New Zealand Director Emanuel Kalafatelis said.
Not surprisingly the support for compulsory teaching of te reo Maori in schools was
highest among Maori and Pacific People at 71 percent, compared with 32 percent for
New Zealand Europeans.
There was no difference of note by area, which shows that the support for the compulsory
teaching of te reo Maori in schools is national rather than regional.
The Research New Zealand poll of 500 people aged 15 and over was conducted by
telephone between 4 and 12 August. The maximum margin of error is +/- 4.9 % (at the
95% confidence level). The data has been weighted to ensure it is an accurate
representation of New Zealand's general population. The poll was not taken on behalf of
any organization, but as part of Research New Zealand’s monthly survey of attitudes and
opinions.
wmoore (6009)
1130306 2010-08-21 12:39:00 Once again bad reporting from NZcity

From RNZ

at 38% thats a little better, I would like to see all the questions asked, in the order they were asked in, to see how agenda loaded they were.

also the sample volume 500 seems, wrong should be 420 or 840 = equaling .01 or .02 of the population.

to be considered vaguly indacative should be .1 = 4200 at a minimum.
angry (15305)
1130307 2010-08-21 12:46:00 Chief Executive Glenis Philip-Barbara believes it shows a maturing of attitudes

So, if 90% had opposed it, they are just 'immature'? That's a bit subjective, isn't it? Personally, if I had kids, I wouldn't want them being forced to learn a dead and useless language.

Agenda-pushing at its finest.
ubergeek85 (131)
1130308 2010-08-21 13:38:00 Statistics are dodgy at best, but when quoted in support of fringe agendas, are frequently way out beyond fantasy. Lunatics squandering tax dollars again. R2x1 (4628)
1130309 2010-08-22 05:23:00 95% of the parents with school age children i know of have NO INTREST WHAT SO EVER in their children wasteing their time on a dead and useless language.

Or coming to terms with their own language for that matter?

:devil
WalOne (4202)
1130310 2010-08-22 05:42:00 Or coming to terms with their own language for that matter?

:devil

The language of this country is ENGLISH the english language is THIS COUNTRYS LANGUAGE OF BUSINESS.

If a youth or adult attains a resonable standard of enuciation and comprehension, the next step if they wish to proceed any further with languages is to learn a language relevant to ociania/australisia.

This would be 1 of the major, chineese languages, korean, japanese, russian, malay, Thai, vietnamese, or one of several more MAJOR toungs of the greater reigon.

why would you waste valuable education time and money on a language that is fluently spoken by less than .1m people. Particularly when the scholars and activists of that pathetically small group, can not even agree on what the words mean, or how they should be enunciated.

Beuracrats and activists sucking on the public tit, are behind this gross waste of time, and taxpayer money

The Five Whys ? Used in conjunction with "Is this the only reason" for each answer until "Only reason's" are exhausted
angry (15305)
1130311 2010-08-22 05:42:00 Funny enough when I was at school I resented all efforts of teaching the language, Now that I have kids, I'm quite happy for them to be taught it during their time at primary school, and if after that its their choice then good for them. Metla (12)
1130312 2010-08-22 06:05:00 Funny enough when I was at school I resented all efforts of teaching the language, Now that I have kids, I'm quite happy for them to be taught it during their time at primary school, and if after that its their choice then good for them.
Metla.

Thats your choice.

The activists and beuracrats running this agenda for THEIR personal gain, miss one vital point. Which you so neatly iterate in your school experience.

COMPELL ME AND I WILL RESIST.

Nothing will agrivate the majority of the population faster, than legally ramming another dying culture down their childrens throats.

Private schools just love this stupidity, it does wonders for their enrolment stats and profits.

Soon this country will be like australia, where parents will frequently comitt serious crimes to obtain the funding required to keep their children OUT of state schools.
angry (15305)
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