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| Thread ID: 112359 | 2010-09-02 09:22:00 | Hello, is there anybody out there? | KarameaDave (15222) | PC World Chat |
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| 1134038 | 2010-09-03 06:54:00 | If the universe is closed, then what's outside it? Sliced bread - part of the String Theory. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1134039 | 2010-09-03 07:05:00 | I'm continually amazed at the depth of the comments on this forum. You can tell that the majority who have responded to this nonsensical thread have obviously thought about the subject for at least five seconds before they replied. That is why I love being part of this forum. It makes my absurd utterings sound so very wise.:D |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 1134040 | 2010-09-03 07:11:00 | :p | KarameaDave (15222) | ||
| 1134041 | 2010-09-03 07:18:00 | Boundless but not infinite - Einstein Pointless but not completely meaningless - anon Like a very large work of art - anon |
zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1134042 | 2010-09-03 08:03:00 | Real art or that crap that some people who think they are artists put out? The world is not a turtle or even an elephant, it's a giant cream egg hard on the outside, soft and creamy on the inside and the sky tower is a disguised Moro bar | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1134043 | 2010-09-03 09:05:00 | Surferjoe , surely the only thing that is closed , is our minds. If you can't see beyond a certain size or point , is that a limitation in the universe, or your brain. ? For the universe to have a shape , or size , that is a finite universe. I can't find a single rational explanation for how the universe could be finite. Surely time and space are infinite!!! and only our comprehension is finite. |
Godfree (15970) | ||
| 1134044 | 2010-09-03 11:28:00 | Just to put things into perspective: www.flixxy.com |
PPp (9511) | ||
| 1134045 | 2010-09-03 11:50:00 | Sorry for the reality check, (I could swear I saw some Elephant legs at the further reaches!) | PPp (9511) | ||
| 1134046 | 2010-09-03 16:03:00 | Surferjoe , surely the only thing that is closed , is our minds . If you can't see beyond a certain size or point , is that a limitation in the universe, or your brain . ? For the universe to have a shape , or size , that is a finite universe . I can't find a single rational explanation for how the universe could be finite . Surely time and space are infinite!!! and only our comprehension is finite . I don't agree . (Of course not!) IF you allow for a defined dimension to the universe (notice I didn't say: "known universe" ? ), then the existence of black holes balance the size of the universe by allowing travel between them as a sorta yin/yang effect, although I don't wholly subscribe to that as a philosophy, but use it here to indicate the necessary balance to keep the universes 'inflated' if you will . I see it sorta as two balloons (just for this example to help simplify the vast multiplicity of other balloon-universes) - that can swap matter and/or energy that they contain by allowing (somewhat impeded) travel betwixt them both, but if one receives a mass that is more than the other, they must re-balance to equal contents/mass/values or whatever you want to understand . This explains the need for and existence of BLACK HOLES, which are obviously evident and prevalent in our universe . Thereby, time is indeed infinite as you can follow time via travels through and to different universes . I don't have a problem with the fact that time is indeed infinite, and that should satisfy your statement in part at least . Space isn't infinite however (by it's being measurable) and therefor has a basic unit of quantification . It's just that there's so much of it (space) and allowing for the parallel universes (Sliced Bread Theory, tied to the String Theory) that we are aghast at the vastness of it and cannot wrap our heads around that concept . Although it smacks of ulterior motives, we can even start our fundamental measurement of the universe from OUR ground-zero: EARTH if you like . F'rinstance::: I proffer the 'white noise' that is still bouncing around/in this universe from early-to-current radio/energy emissions from radio/TV/radar, etc, that can be measured and heard through audio devices as 'sizzle' or 'hash', and of course can also be seen when demodulated as the 'visual and aural noise' between broadcast channels on TVs . If there was no limit to the universe, (ie: boundaries) for the echo-effect and resultant bounce-back of these radiant forms of energy, then they would be seriously less or even non-existent, unlike what we have now and can see/hear and decipher . Think of it this way: you need some sort of wall or enclosure to create an echo in a canyon or large empty building; I see the universe as such but on a much grander scale . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1134047 | 2010-09-05 10:42:00 | Surferjoe , we can certainly get confused by the array of definitions and words used to describe what is , Multiple universes , surely this is a contradiction in terms , and yes we earthlings tend to see the Universe from our perspective. To start with the earth was the "center of the universe" when this was proved wrong the "big bang is the center of the universe" How can there be a center , when there are no sides from which to measure??? Ppd , it's not good enough just to send us to see the pics for ourselves , you have to tell us what it means , if you were to leave it up to our limited understanding , we could conclude we see god in the pics, That we can't yet see forever therefore forever doesn't exist, etc So , what do the hubble deep field photo's mean to you??? Olber thinks because we could see blackness in the night sky, the universe must be finite , hubble seems to disagree??? |
Godfree (15970) | ||
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