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Thread ID: 112439 2010-09-06 06:57:00 Deciding on what to do when I leave school!!!! xyz823 (13649) PC World Chat
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1135128 2010-09-06 11:02:00 Any chance you could ask them WHY they don't enjoy it?
One is a demotivated stoner, the other hates coding and programming and mathematics but enjoy hardware, and another feels he's losing his interest in computers altogether.

There was a time probably back when I was in yr11 when I thought computers would be my future.....now I'm doing something completely different from computers.....you'd be surprised how quick your mind can change, so take the time to figure out what you really want.
qazwsxokmijn (102)
1135129 2010-09-06 12:08:00 I'd say don't do computer science on its own. Maybe IT, or something like electrical engineering, where you'd actually be using computer science to do stuff. But computer science on its own, IMHO, probably isn't optimal forrest44 (754)
1135130 2010-09-06 22:05:00 Hmm the Bachelor of Computer and Information Sciences at AUT looks good.

Few questions, how much is theory based and how much is practical? What are the resources etc like at AUT?

For programming/software development, a very large amount is practical, you can't really learn programming without actually doing a lot of coding. They teach Java in the first year, I'm not too sure about after that.

AUT is known for being a bit more practical than other Universities. You have to do things like Applied Communication and a maths paper in the first year, but I'd say that applies anywhere.

What do you mean by resources? They have heaps of open lab computers to use, plus a lab that's only for computing students. Big library, all the things you'd expect at a uni really. In Programming 1 and 2 (first year), they run extra classes for people who need to get help with stuff.
ryanjames.powell (13554)
1135131 2010-09-07 04:34:00 Anyway, I have decided I would like to do something in IT, specifically programming or some description .

Friend of mine went to Polytech from school . Did various programming orientated papers, got head-hunted by datacom and ended up happily making loads and loads of money .

However, she was good . Very, very, very good . She put a lot of effort into tech too .
pctek (84)
1135132 2010-09-07 05:18:00 I went to Uni for 6 months, started a Bachelor in ComSci. Got bored and quit.

It's a double-edged sword, with pros and cons, to it being so broad.
On the one hand, you will potentially be doing things that you don't enjoy.
On the other hand, it'll give you a good idea of how you're going to need to interact with other IT Depts / people, and in the long term will make you a much better employee, unless you've already got that kind of experience from working in the field.

I know people who started at Unitec at the same time as I did, they didn't know what they wanted to do until the last year of their ComSci course, but are now happily doing X, Y and Z :)
Chilling_Silence (9)
1135133 2010-09-07 05:26:00 Have only heard bad things about computer science from my computing teacher but was hoping for more opinions as I know a lot of people on here are in the IT industry. So was hoping I got get more information from someone on here who has an idea of what is actually involved in a CS degree.

Cheers

You should only get your opinions about Computer science from people who have actually done it, not from people who have an opinion about it but really have no idea what it is about.

The other developers around me right now as I type this all have computer science/electrical engineering degrees, so it can't all be 'bad things'. With all due respect, but your teacher works in the education industry, not the IT/technology industry so he can't really have any idea about what it is like in the real world. Maybe he failed so became a teacher? haha jk.

Computer science, contrary to what another poster said, is not all low level. At canterbury university, computer science is the actual degree; whether you choose to do low level subjects (assembler, operating systems, electrical engineering) or higher level subjects (software development, algorithms, networking etc) is up to you. I don't know if other universities have computer science as a low level degree and something else for the rest.

At UC, (when I did it) it starts with Java to teach you how to program, then C. After the first 6 months, programming is no longer the subject, but a tool used to learn other topics.

If all you want to do is program, maybe polytech is a better option. The point of university (for me) was to learn how to learn and to train me how to do research in post grad degrees (which isn't done at polytechs)
utopian201 (6245)
1135134 2010-09-07 08:52:00 You may decide on something now but you may change your mind a year from now. QW. (15883)
1135135 2010-09-07 08:57:00 You should only get your opinions about Computer science from people who have actually done it, not from people who have an opinion about it but really have no idea what it is about.

The other developers around me right now as I type this all have computer science/electrical engineering degrees, so it can't all be 'bad things'. With all due respect, but your teacher works in the education industry, not the IT/technology industry so he can't really have any idea about what it is like in the real world. Maybe he failed so became a teacher? haha jk.

Computer science, contrary to what another poster said, is not all low level. At canterbury university, computer science is the actual degree; whether you choose to do low level subjects (assembler, operating systems, electrical engineering) or higher level subjects (software development, algorithms, networking etc) is up to you. I don't know if other universities have computer science as a low level degree and something else for the rest.

At UC, (when I did it) it starts with Java to teach you how to program, then C. After the first 6 months, programming is no longer the subject, but a tool used to learn other topics.

If all you want to do is program, maybe polytech is a better option. The point of university (for me) was to learn how to learn and to train me how to do research in post grad degrees (which isn't done at polytechs)

Very well put. I did a carpentry/Joinery trade 25 years ago, which I still work as and I still don't know what I want to be when I grow up :help:
gary67 (56)
1135136 2010-09-07 09:22:00 You may decide on something now but you may change your mind a year from now.
Nevertheless, it is good that the OP has already given some thoughts to his future. At least in a year's time he will be aware of the possible pathways that he can take.
Renmoo (66)
1135137 2010-09-07 09:25:00 Nevertheless, it is good that the OP has already given some thoughts to his future. At least in a year's time he will be aware of the possible pathways that he can take.

That's my thoughts, get my sh*t sorted now, less stressful next year. Although I have mates in my current computing class who are heading off to different things next year, one is doing astronomy and CS, one is off to CPIT, another is doing something at Lincoln, another is doing media design (Not sure where though).

Will have a chat with them all through next year, see what their thoughts are on the courses partway through the first year.
xyz823 (13649)
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