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Thread ID: 112416	2010-09-05 07:00:00	iPhone 3G vs 3GS	xyz823 (13649)	PC World Chat

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1134827	2010-09-05 21:48:00	Out of interest, were you running a task killer of some description? I can't say mine has ever felt laggy - my experience of the N1 has been that the performance is substantially better than an iPhone 3GS, and noting your comment of 'even with the memory cleared', I have a sneaky suspicion that your problems were self-inflicted. was running a task killer when I first got the phone on the advice of people on the nexus one forums but stopped using it after a couple of weeks or so due to sheer laziness. when I said memory cleared i was meaning manually closing unnecessary programs in the native android application manager. It's also worth pointing out that Android 2.2 (FroYo) gave it a huge speed boost as compared to 2.1 (Eclair), due to the addition of a JIT compiler. [QUOTE] I was running 2.2 and noticed very little if any improvement from 2.1 to 2.2 [QUOTE=Erayd;947199] Compared to a 2nd-gen iPod touch, I found the touch's digitizer slightly better, but they're both very good - no problems with accuracy or responsiveness from either device. The N1 does occasionally lose calibration if the screen undergoes a large temperature change, but briefly switching the screen off / on sorts it. I found the nexus would always hit the button next to the one I was aiming for, maybe with enough time I could have gotten used to it, but what really annoyed me is when it was charging the bottom 2cm of the touch screen simply did not work and the rest of the screen would register hits almost as far away as possible from where I actually hit it. I haven't had a chance to field-test an iPhone 4, but I find my N1 holds a signal substantially better than both my old Samsung flip-phone (M510, Telecom CDMA) and a Sharp GX-10 (Vodafone). Coverage area seems to be slightly better than the GX-10. Cupping the bottom of the phone does sometimes decrease the available signal a little bit (between 0 & 10 dBm, depending on location), but not enough to affect performance. It will reliably hold a connection for both calls and data, on both GSM, EDGE, and WCDMA, all the way down to -113dBm. I don't know how the iPhone 4 would fare under those signal conditions, but my guess is that due to the antenna design it will have slightly better coverage than the N1, but at the expense of a significantly larger signal drop if you hold it the wrong way. with my N1 and the one my friend bought any touches to the bottom brown plastic section on the back would cause an immediate drop of 4 or 5 bars of signal. Also the n1 would randomly stop talking to the 3g network leaving me unable to use any internet until I cycled the connection by turning airplane mode on and off. Definitely haven't found this - my N1 seems to get fairly similar battery life to an iPhone 3GS. Once again, this makes me suspicious you were running a task killer... I get 2 days of fairly heavy usage from the iPhone and I got maybe 1 day if I was lucky from the N1, without a task killer. I've owned my N1 since the beginning of March, and would choose it over an iPhone anyday - in my personal opinion it leaves the iPhone for dead - but it's definitely a matter of preference. Android and iOS have very different philosophies governing their design and limitations, and as such there's a huge difference between the two platforms. Don;t get me wrong I would love a good android phone, but I believe the platform still has a fair ways to go to become as user friendly as iOS, and that task is only made more difficult due to its use across multiple phones. That is one reason I bought the N1 over any other Android phone, since it is the 'reference' android phone it should have the best possible android experience.	lagbort (5041)
1134828	2010-09-05 23:42:00	I'm with Erayd on this one. No issues, and the battery life was significantly longer than the 3G and 3GS. Borrowed a near-new 3GS for a week, got a solid day from it, but that's all. I use my phone *lots*. iPhone 3G would last me until 4PM usually before getting to 10%, or even dying. Didn't ever have bluetooth on for the iPhones, it would kill the battery so much faster it was amazingly terrible. N1 will last me all day, even if I stream music via bluetooth for a few hours, and I'll get to 5PM and still have ~40% left easy. I can't comment on signal dropping entirely, it's been brilliant for me, and I always hold the brown part at the bottom of the phone? How else are you supposed to hold the device? Here's an example of the speed differences: In my left hand (I'm right-handed, so it's going to be slower and more un-coordinated) I held my new N1 just 5-6 hours after I'd got it. In my right hand, I held my iPhone 3G which I'd had for just on 2 years, and was very familiar with. Both were powered off, powered back on on, screen off, with a 4-digit passcode to unlock. Starting at the same time, I fired both up, one in each hand. On the N1 I unlocked the phone, loaded up the market, searched for Bump, selected the result, told it to install the app, waited while it downloaded, it installed, I loaded up the app. On the iPhone 3G, I unlocked the phone, tapped on the App Store icon, and waited. The N1 was finished installing Bump and the app was running before my 3G had even loaded the App Store.. Now that's a speed difference ;)	Chilling_Silence (9)
1134829	2010-09-06 01:13:00	<snip> Also the n1 would randomly stop talking to the 3g network leaving me unable to use any internet until I cycled the connection by turning airplane mode on and off. <snip> Would my assumption that you are/were with VF when the 3G dropouts were occurring with your phone be correct? A colleague has just 'upgraded' to an iPhone4 (on VF) - I'm currently running a 3GS (on XT) while I'm waiting for my N1 to arrive. When he is sitting beside me on the 15th floor of an Auckland central city building, he gets between 2 and 4 bars, and 3G comes and goes.... I get 5 bars with 3G (since XT is ONLY 3G) on my 3GS. It may not have been the phone's fault - it might be the carrier you are with.	johcar (6283)
1134830	2010-09-06 02:58:00	Ah gotta love XT :D Also, keep in mind that there are the two different versions of the N1, designed for the two different networks!	Chilling_Silence (9)
1134831	2010-09-06 11:57:00	...when I said memory cleared i was meaning manually closing unnecessary programs in the native android application manager...That's almost as bad. Unless something has crashed, it's generally a good idea to leave that kind of thing alone - the OS will kill them if necessary. I must say, going by your posts in this thread, I wonder if you had some faulty hardware. I know quite a few people with N1 phones, and to the best of my knowledge none of them have experienced the issues you've been describing.	Erayd (23)
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