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Thread ID: 112893	2010-09-26 06:56:00	Telephone wires...any standard to it?	CCF (6760)	PC World Chat

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1139679	2010-09-26 06:56:00	Hey there guys Am just about to attempt some phone re-wiring for our old house, though I'll ask here for some pointer and heads up. We have moved to VOIP service so am thinking of centralizing our analog phone lines to the VOIP adapter, got 4-5 jacks/phones (including house alarm) we want to hook up. Was just wondering if there are any standards in the way you should wire up phone lines for example the pin layout and its colour etc. Such that you would know network cables have a standard to it when its a straight through or crossover, are there such thing for telephone cable wiring? Though a few side qs. 1. How would one identify its main inbound telephone cable? Do they typically run through attics? Or the basement? 2. Ive seen some wiring post about terminating lines/cables/pins, are they necessary if so, how would one go about so and when about? 3. Can you short circuit or break telephone jacks with improper wiring? Thanks for everyone's time ^^	CCF (6760)
1139680	2010-09-26 07:07:00	Here's a good place to start....www.telepermit.co.nz PaulD will probably point you in the right direction if he's around. Edit: there may be a later standard.	Terry Porritt (14)
1139681	2010-09-26 07:47:00	This seems to be where the current thinking on wiring is "Code of Practice for Residential and Small Office Premises Wiring" www.tcf.org.nz Membership of Premises Wiring Working Party * Chorus * Orcon * Telecom Retail * Telecom Wholesale * TelstraClear * Vector Communications * Vodafone * WorldxChange	PaulD (232)
1139682	2010-09-26 09:49:00	Last time I wired a jack, I was told that the blue and white wires had to be attached to the middle point in the two rows of connectors, and it didn't matter which way round they went. That was a few years ago though... although the jack worked just fine.	ubergeek85 (131)
1139683	2010-09-26 19:21:00	Hey there guys Much appreciated for the updates on the code and jacks, will come in handy . Just another question . I went out and purchased a NSOPTM8 panel, ( . imagevenue . com/img . php?image=27659_NSO_122_81lo . JPG" target="_blank">img208 . imagevenue . com) as it was advised by a local JA Russel customer service that it can do what I wanted, for example allow me to centralise the jack points . Looking at the panel, it looked pretty straight forward in wiring, however playing around with the wires I cant see to get it working properly . I was wondering if someone could give me a heads up at where Im going wrong . The setup is I have my input 4pin cable wired onto the panel from left (blue) to right on the LINE IN socket, and the same thing for output cable from left to right as well . With the setup mention above I can get one connection working . For example, 1x INPUT, 1x OUTPUT . Phone rings and calls . However the problem that Im experiencing is that, the moment I wire in a 2nd output, with exactly the same wiring, both phone will end up not working for example no ring tones and such . So I was wondering am I missing something here? And yes I do know that only 2 pins are required, though because I wasnt sure where those 2pins will go exactly on the intake, thats why I hooked up 4pins from left to right . So any pointers or comments are all appreciated ^^	CCF (6760)
1139684	2010-09-26 21:59:00	4pin or 4 pair cable? What are you using as jacks at the telephone end? I'm assuming that the panel you've got connects the input terminal strip to all outputs with some sort of insertion point for an alarm? If one output works all should work if you've wired them all the same.	PaulD (232)
1139685	2010-09-26 23:23:00	Hey there Paul, much appreciated for your assist . Yes its a 4pin (2pairs, cat3) cable . As for the jacks, what do you mean its type? At the moment it just standard two wire telephone jacks . I have tried wiring one end of the output cable as a RJ14 and as well as RJ11, thus one end can be directly inserted into the phones, however with that setup, as long soon as I chuck in a 2nd output, both lines will stop working . I have also tried running through a telephone jack, then to the phones, but same thing . Like you said, if all the wiring layout were the same, it should work . . . hence Im a bit confused why this isnt working . . . . I must be missing something or doing something very stupid >< . . .	CCF (6760)
1139686	2010-09-26 23:42:00	Forgot to mention about the panel insertion . Yes, the layout is 4 in, 4 out . As for the house alarm, I havnt figure out how to re-route our house alarm yet Diagram: House . Line . In--->UR2 . Connector--->Alarm Box--->Phone . Jack#1--->Phone . Jack#2(Chosen . Port)--->ADSL . Modem I've tried re-routing the HOUSE . LINE . IN directly to our Phone . JACK#2 with UR2 connectors, but that doesnt work, DSL line wouldnt sync . When I was to be disconnected from Telecom, the technician who came said I had to choose a port for the VOIP line/DSL line . Would that prevent me from re-wiring my phone lines? I chose my incoming jack to be Jack#2 . . . Im thinking could it be because a setting made via the telephone pole that is preventing me from connecting House . Line . In to Jack#2? Any comments will be much appreciated :)	CCF (6760)
1139687	2010-09-26 23:59:00	Based on descriptions of that unit as I can't find any schematic the input strip allows for 4 incoming lines 1 pair each. The outputs allow 8 extensions to be connected to 1 of the incoming lines at a time. The output jack is for connecting more output strips. Connect your incoming line to the 1st pair (Blue) on the input strip. Connect your jacks to the same pair on the output strips Blue should be the centre pair in the RJ45 and work with a phone cord. The house alarm would connect to the jack in place of the blanking plug. assume that is just for 1 of the incoming lines. UR2.connector?? Have you had a splitter installed at the demarcation? Is your diagram what you had before playing?	PaulD (232)
1139688	2010-09-27 00:18:00	If there is a splitter you would have had House.Line.In --> splitter --->UR2.Connector--->Alarm Box--->Phone.Jack#1 data output from splitter --->Phone-.Jack#2(Chosen.Port)--->ADSL.Modem If you looked at the pair colour in the cable used for J2 it would have been different from J1	PaulD (232)
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