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Thread ID: 112961	2010-09-28 23:52:00	Give way road rule change confirmed	george12 (7)	PC World Chat

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1140388	2010-09-30 10:49:00	I don't expect the gory detail but if you have an exemption why not advise the cop at the time? Then he has the option of accepting your explanation or requiring proof of said exemption within 7 days. Your case got as far as being dropped at the last moment. Had you made any previous excuse or were you planning to whip out the get out of jail card only when you were in the dock? The cop was being a somewhat obnoxious person when he first pulled me over and therefore I decided to use my right to silence on the issue. I did tell him at the time that I was going to defend the matter so it was over to him to ensure he had the evidence to get a conviction. If he had bothered to look in the back of my station wagon he would have seen 3 or 4 boxes which contained second hand books. At the time I was stopped I was delivering these to various people within the town in which I reside and at no stage did I exceed 50 KMH or if I did he did not mention it or charge me with it. You won't find it in the Road Code but if you are delivering goods and do not exceed 50 Kmh then you don't have to wear a seatbelt. It's the same exemption that covers Couriers around town but in my case I was not driving a courier van. But the law does not say you have to be driving a courier van does it? So yes. I was going to whip out my get out of jail free card in Court as you put it. As you may have noticed I enjoy a good debate and to be frank I was going to enjoy asking him a few questions in Court. I think the same exemption could be used for the people that deliver Meals on Wheels for example. To take it a step further it could be also used if I did the shopping once a week or fortnight for some Pensioners I know as well. I will leave you to think about that and go find the relevant Acts and Regulations	Snorkbox (15764)
1140389	2010-09-30 11:19:00	@ PaulD Have a read of this:- www.legislation.govt.nz Note that you may not exceed 50 Kmh. And you charge for the service of dropping off the goodies even if only 10 cents a drop. As always your further comment is invited. I may add that if you don't know your rights you are going to get trampled on. And it's everyones right to be heard in Court as far as I am aware. If the cop was to ask where was your last drop off point or your next drop off point you do not have to tell him do you? The official road code does not mention this regarding seat belts and that is why I say that the road code is not the law.	Snorkbox (15764)
1140390	2010-09-30 11:30:00	Couriers don't have the wear seatbelts? Whoa that's news to me.	--Wolf-- (128)
1140391	2010-09-30 11:43:00	Couriers don't have the wear seatbelts? Whoa that's news to me. Couriers are not the only ones that have exemptions. If I got into a Vintage model T Ford I would not have to wear a seat belt either for example.	Snorkbox (15764)
1140392	2010-09-30 18:13:00	@ PaulD Have a read of this:- www.legislation.govt.nz Note that you may not exceed 50 Kmh. And you charge for the service of dropping off the goodies even if only 10 cents a drop. As always your further comment is invited. I was aware of that. It's a shame you didn't get your day in court. It would have been interesting to see how your minimal charge stacked up as employment and the frequent interval issue. I don't see it in the same class as newspaper delivery but then I always did like watching the TV series "Misleading Cases".	PaulD (232)
1140393	2010-09-30 23:38:00	I was aware of that. It's a shame you didn't get your day in court. It would have been interesting to see how your minimal charge stacked up as employment and the frequent interval issue. I don't see it in the same class as newspaper delivery but then I always did like watching the TV series "Misleading Cases". I always liked that show too! My main point was to prove that the law is an ass as has often been said before by others far more qualified than I am. Also to prove the point that if the Police don't know the law, or can't enforce it, then why should the general public have to obey poorly drafted laws.	Snorkbox (15764)
1140394	2010-09-30 23:50:00	I'm sure the reasons or the windscreen will hit you sooner or later :D	PaulD (232)
1140395	2010-10-01 02:29:00	My understanding of the expression 'the Law is an Ass" is that it is not implying that the law is stupid or idiotic but is in fact meaning that it may be able to be led to where-ever you may wish. So in other words it can be made to follow motives to produce a desired result.	zqwerty (97)
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