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Thread ID: 112961 2010-09-28 23:52:00 Give way road rule change confirmed george12 (7) PC World Chat
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1140368 2010-09-29 23:46:00 You look in your rear vision mirror(s) which are the reflective bits on the interior or exterior of the car. If you see a vehicle behind you which is not signalling then it would be reasonable to suspect it is going straight through but can't be relied upon. That vehicle has the right of way over the car turning right so therefore make your left turn.

Whereabouts do you drive, Snorkbox, that other drivers leave enough following distance for you to see their lights/indicators in your mirrors?

:devil
Miami Steve (2128)
1140369 2010-09-29 23:54:00 Whereabouts do you drive, Snorkbox, that other drivers leave enough following distance for you to see their lights/indicators in your mirrors?

:devil

I mostly rely on the position on the road of the car behind me to be honest. If it's up my rear end it can stop if I do when turning left or it can pass. Their choice!:rolleyes:
Snorkbox (15764)
1140370 2010-09-29 23:56:00 I am the first to admit It gets confusing on trips away with unfamiliar intersections and I am thinking who the **** gives way here. Hopefully the other people at the intersection are locals and know the rules for that intersection and you take a cue from from them.
I suppose it all turns to **** when two out of towners without encyclopedic memory of the NZ give ways rules met at an unfamilar intersection.
In West Auckland the drivers undergoing testing from Westgate all know what to do at each intersection because the driving instructors drive them around the testing circuit all day.
What happens when these driver go to a killer roundabout like the one at Royal Oak I dont know.
As soon as my boy when he is learning to drive gets cocky I will put him thru the Swanson road and then Royal Oak roundabout to kill his over confidence.
prefect (6291)
1140371 2010-09-29 23:58:00 I think the thing to remember too is that these days we have thousands of overseas travellers who pick up a rental on an international license and head off.

As we seem to be the only country that has this silly rule, these tourists cause a lot of accidents they aren’t even involved in. On the other hand, I must admit to having to remind myself constantly of the difference whilst driving in Australia.

Personally, I don’t think it would hurt to have some International Convention on road rules for those that drive on the Right or Left hand side of the road. It might be asking too much to expect to get everyone to agree to drive on the same side of the road, but at least standardising the give-way rules would help along with standard international signage.

Melbourne has invented their own bit of confusion with a thing called a “Hook Turn”. Any Vic’s out there that can explain that one for me? :D I’ve always just played it by ear and given that all other drivers in Melbourne are Indians, it really is just a matter of the survival of the fittest. It reminds me of a shipping lane where intentions to change direction were conveyed by blasts of the horn. ;)
B.M. (505)
1140372 2010-09-30 00:08:00 We got driving rules ? :xmouth: Thats a surprise around here :lol: Its take your life in your own hands sometimes.

Half the idiots dont take any notice anyway, and the rest of us idiots are trying to avoid them ;)
wainuitech (129)
1140373 2010-09-30 00:31:00 Melbourne has invented their own bit of confusion with a thing called a “Hook Turn”. Any Vic’s out there that can explain that one for me? :D I’ve always just played it by ear and given that all other drivers in Melbourne are Indians, it really is just a matter of the survival of the fittest. It reminds me of a shipping lane where intentions to change direction were conveyed by blasts of the horn. ;)

There's no confusion if you want to turn right, instead of sitting in the middle of the road waiting for a chance or a tram to hit you, you approach in the left lane and stop in front of the traffic waiting at the lights. When the lights turn green you are at the head of the queue.
PaulD (232)
1140374 2010-09-30 00:47:00 I used to drive a bit in Europe on business in the 70s visiting machine tool firms and trying to sell to them. Germany and Switzerland were ok, just had to watch out for articulated buses/streetcars.

France and Belgium were countries to get through as quickly as possible in order to reach the sanity of Germany and Switzerland, though it was possible to understand their Gallic road rules, including priority to the right.

I never did get my head around Italian rules, if such existed, especially at those very very big multi-road intersections with traffic lights suspended on overhead wires, and where a red light seemed to mean race across.
Terry Porritt (14)
1140375 2010-09-30 01:17:00 To add to the above I may add I have had two minor accidents in my lifetime. The first was in Australia in the early 80's when I was stopped at a set of red traffic lights. Another driver behind me mounted the traffic island to get into a right turn lane and clipped the right rear of my Holden V8. He was driving a Volvo and I was under the impression that Volvos never had the right of way anyway as Holdens are superior.

The second was when I was backing up an Artic tanker to get out of the way of an A train tanker and this fence post jumped out and deliberately attacked the left front mudguard of the tractor unit. Possibly it may have been because it was a Ford Tractor unit I was driving but I doubt it very much. My fault entirely and I took the blame.
Snorkbox (15764)
1140376 2010-09-30 01:21:00 Simply because the cars behind you have the right of way if they are going straight through over a car turning right in front of them. Sheesh!

What you do is you are going to turn left and you do that from a position as far to the left as practicable. You look in your rear vision mirror(s) which are the reflective bits on the interior or exterior of the car. If you see a vehicle behind you which is not signalling then it would be reasonable to suspect it is going straight through but can't be relied upon. That vehicle has the right of way over the car turning right so therefore make your left turn.

A number of people only use these mirrors to have a shave or apply makeup however.

I have seen people with the stereo on full bore, can't hear sirens, don't use rear view mirrors and are totally oblivious to the fact there is a large fire engine behind them which being painted red and has red flashing lights and flashing headlights should be rather obvious.

Someone confirm this via the road code?

So I pull the left side but if there are cars behind me going straight, I don't have to give way to the opposite wanting to make a right turn.

I always believed if I make a left I need to give way to the car making a right.
The car behind me should never cross the centre yellow line so technically they should not be able to barge thru.
Nomad (952)
1140377 2010-09-30 02:40:00 There's no confusion if you want to turn right, instead of sitting in the middle of the road waiting for a chance or a tram to hit you, you approach in the left lane and stop in front of the traffic waiting at the lights. When the lights turn green you are at the head of the queue.

Well Paul I find entering the Left Hand Lane in order to turn Right b****y confusing. :D

I shudder to think of the carnage if they introduced that one in Auckland, although, I believe I have noticed the odd Melbourne driver on the occasions I’ve plucked up enough courage to drive in Auckland. ;)
B.M. (505)
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