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| Thread ID: 112966 | 2010-09-29 01:54:00 | Did Faraday Make a Wrong Statement? | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 1140451 | 2010-09-29 08:29:00 | Getting back to Faraday, if your mate makes 'wild' statements about what Faraday said, then he must provide documented evidence from an original source. Common sense would suggest that someone as experimentally competent as Faraday would not have made such a statement, neither can I recall ever having read anything like that attributed to him. |
Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1140452 | 2010-09-29 08:33:00 | Anyway - one person stated that Faraday found more energy coming out of a device that was input. Can someone help me call this bluff? Well SJ, the best way to call his bluff is to ask for a citation for the alleged claim, and not just a Wiki entry either, ask for something authoritive, then put some money on it. I'd ask for a quotation from Faraday's era, not current science, because there are some weird effects out there in nuclear science and/or quantum physics etc and who knows what Stephen Hawking has worked out, or the Large Hadron Collider is doing. I took a look in Google and there are any number of references, but nothing definitive and they tend to end in conspiracy theories about suppression of free energy sources. Some examples read very credibly, but conveniently ignore eddy current losses etc, so send him off on a search for a credible and documented example. There was another one of these being promoted a year or two back and it too collapsed in a heap when all was laid bare. If Faraday claimed it, there will be a record somewhere, but let him go looking. I bet he'll fade away. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1140453 | 2010-09-29 08:52:00 | Well if its true, it could be scaled up, a machine that puts out more energy than you put in. Better than a perpetual motion machine. Thats the world energy crisis solved. Or Faraday night be wrong like the cold fusion nuts and the nuts who think the hydrogen you get from electrolysis has more energy than the electrical power you used to make it. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1140454 | 2010-09-29 08:54:00 | Then, in 1978, the aforementioned Sunburst homopolar generator was built. Tests determined that its output power greatly exceeded the input needed to run the machine, that it was much more efficient that an induction generator. This is a good example, link the output to a motor to drive the generator and you have a perpetual motion machine. Go figure! It ain't going to happen and I seem to recall that the key here is the maxim that energy can neither be created nor destroyed. Sounds like a dead-end to me. Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 1140455 | 2010-09-29 15:35:00 | So far - not retorts! Youse guys may have squashed the idealists in them, but after they lick their wounds a while, they'll see that belief in the ephemeral isn't a chaste cause for someone using the laws of physics in a sloppy way . Thanks all . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
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