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Thread ID: 113204 2010-10-09 18:37:00 Don't have kids pctek (84) PC World Chat
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1143004 2010-10-10 00:00:00 Yep, public transport is useless in Auckland. I hope I never have to use it. Ever.

It's not as useless as you think it is (well the trains anyway). :)

(Then again, this is coming from someone who lives a 15 minute walk away from the third busiest station on the network.)
pcuser42 (130)
1143005 2010-10-10 00:13:00 Honestly, why would I use public transport if I can get there cheaper, quicker and more easily if I used a car? Cato (6936)
1143006 2010-10-10 00:18:00 Honestly, why would I use public transport if I can get there cheaper, quicker and more easily if I used a car?

$8 return to Britomart ;)

And how long do you spend finding a car park? :)
pcuser42 (130)
1143007 2010-10-10 00:20:00 Honestly, why would I use public transport if I can get there cheaper, quicker and more easily if I used a car?
Unfortunately taking the bus is approx $6 cheaper than taking the car to uni for me. I absolutely hate taking the bus here in Auckland but $6 does add up every single day to $30 a week!!!
qazwsxokmijn (102)
1143008 2010-10-10 00:24:00 Utter rubbish, Higher capacity roads just promote more cars. Auckland isn't even a big city, its just a badly managed one.

As your post highlights its a culture change that is needed as much as investment in infrastructure.
Hooking up the motorways as was planned 40 years ago might make them flow faster.
Not sure browns planned rail link from CBD to airport would pay for itself in squillion years.
I have nothing against public transport if its not subdized by rates
prefect (6291)
1143009 2010-10-10 00:44:00 $8 return to Britomart ;)

And how long do you spend finding a car park? :)

Funny, 30km according to MAXX would take me between 1:20 & 1:30. I'd do the same trip in under 30mins and find a parking spot.

With an average fuel consumption 14km/l at $1.80 that I used to pay, it cost me under 4$ one way, sure I end up paying a bit for parking up meh.
Cato (6936)
1143010 2010-10-10 00:47:00 Funny, 30km according to MAXX would take me between 1:20 & 1:30. I'd do the same trip in under 30mins and find a parking spot.

With an average fuel consumption 14km/l at $1.80 that I used to pay, it cost me under 4$ one way, sure I end up paying a bit for parking up meh.

Your car was free?,and has no running costs apart from fuel?
Metla (12)
1143011 2010-10-10 00:50:00 Ha ha photoshop rego and wof lol keeps costs down. prefect (6291)
1143012 2010-10-10 01:26:00 You need to slap your sense into him. That be how lives get ruined.

Into her more so than him, not that either of them think.


Interestingly I have no idea how you get $8 on the bus.

His came out at $9.70 each way, bus + train. Mine (if I was to do it) would be $13.50 each way.
And take longer than a slow car crawl in traffic.
No wonder we all drive.
pctek (84)
1143013 2010-10-10 01:43:00 Last night son wrote off the car I gave him when we came up.

No seat belt either so he broke the windscreen with his head.

Yes it was his fault.

Never give your kid a car, they will have no commitment to it and you will end up paying for their indiscretions or carelessness. As for the lack of a seatbelt, the name 'Darwin' comes to mind.

I won't allow my car (used for business and family) to be driven by anybody else except in the case of a medical emergency. Mrs T has her own car and my son & daughter bought a car between them. We insured it via our insurance company, they pay the costs, and the excess/ loss of no claims bonus if they have an accident. I gave them both sufficient driving lessons to get them over the basics without learning too many of my bad habits, then handed them on to an instructor to polish them up. We gave both 4 lessons prepaid, the rest were on them.

So far my daughter has had two incidents, one a carpark argument with a post (driving instructor didn't explain that the front and rear steering behaves differently when reversing) and the other (recently mentioned here) a slow-speed collision with a parked car when her windscreen flash-froze after Auckland's coldest night in many years, a phenomenon I have never seen before in over 40 years of driving.

Any way, she's paid for the increase in the insurance, and the loss of no claims bonus. Careful as she is, we'd have paid a lot more by now if she was not constantly aware that she is financially responsible for her actions on the road.

When your son has to take a push-bike, bus or train to work, perhaps at antisocial hours, or look for another job closer to home, he will start to realise how generous you were and how stupid he was.

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
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