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| Thread ID: 113178 | 2010-10-08 14:31:00 | BMW's New Touring Bike | SurferJoe46 (51) | PC World Chat |
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| 1142680 | 2010-10-09 11:23:00 | Dont like german stuff, if was any good they should have won one of the two world wars they started. Probaly didnt because their stuff kept breaking down. When speaking to mechanics they say Audi,VW,MB,Smart, BMW crap not even as reliable as Jap crap. My father was a prisoner in Germany for three years during WWII and he had a great deal of respect for German engineering. I think it is time you stopped giving us your biased crap. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1142681 | 2010-10-09 19:31:00 | I dont care about your fathers view of German engineering, I have mine and you arent going to change it. Took me 4 hours to remove, repair and refit Audi A4 pressure power steering hose a few months ago Jap ones takes 45 minutes. The car was a 2006 model if I was the owner I would be sick with rage. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1142682 | 2010-10-09 20:39:00 | My father was a prisoner in Germany for three years during WWII and he had a great deal of respect for German engineering. I think it is time you stopped giving us your biased crap. The Allies certainly had respect for German armament, such as the Panzerfaust anti-tank gun, the 88's, MG-42 and other machine guns, automatic pistols -Machinepistoles, Tiger tank, V1, V2, etc. But overall the reliability was poor. For example, Tigers and other tanks continually broke down, were difficult to repair and they also lacked maneuverability and speed. Compare with the amazing American 2½ ton truck, jeep, M1 rifle, Sherman tanks (later versions), P47, P51, etc. When I was a young man I bought a new BMW motorcycle from the factory in Munich and toured Europe for the summer. It leaked oil badly from the drive shaft onto the rear wheel. When I stopped for the first service, the mechanic was a BMW expert (he raced BMW's for years) and sadly told me that the oil leak could not be fixed - it was a design fault. More recently, a few weeks ago a Ulysses Club guest speaker who has been on 7 motorcycle tours to N and S American bluntly stated that it was the BMW bikes that were more likely to break down. There is a lot of information on WW2 German armament 'superiority' such as this site. (www.ww2f.com) |
Strommer (42) | ||
| 1142683 | 2010-10-09 20:47:00 | Yep thats all so true much over rated and still over rated by some today but not by car and truck mechanics. MG42 very good machine gun no arguments there. 88 was a good gun in that it was multi purpose. 262 was no super airplane it had slow acceleration, very unreliable engines was lethal with an engine out. And the good guys were only a few months behind with their planes the Vampire flew before the war finished and it would have dished up the 262. Tanks broke down because the germans had trouble getting metals for alloying steel for gears and stuff. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1142684 | 2010-10-09 23:36:00 | I dont care about your fathers view of German engineering, I have mine and you arent going to change it. Took me 4 hours to remove, repair and refit Audi A4 pressure power steering hose a few months ago Jap ones takes 45 minutes. The car was a 2006 model if I was the owner I would be sick with rage. I wouldn't even think of trying to change any of your views.:rolleyes: |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1142685 | 2010-10-10 14:55:00 | Just to lighten it up a scosh - I found a nice bike for getting from sea-to-sea on your tectonic plate rapidly --- North-to-South or the shorter but seriously less exciting, East-to-West. Straight roads are not necessary, nor are roads even necessary at speed. Here's a video of the bike in action::: www.home.zonnet.nl :drool:devil:drool |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 1142686 | 2010-10-10 18:38:00 | Tanks broke down because the germans had trouble getting metals for alloying steel for gears and stuff. Do you have a reference for that? Early in the war the Germans should have had the means to make decent "gears and stuff". During the 1938 invasion of Austria about 30% of the tanks broke down before reaching Vienna. Some crews didn't have the experience to fix mechanical problems. |
Strommer (42) | ||
| 1142687 | 2010-10-10 18:53:00 | Sorry I have no links but its common knowledge that the Tiger tank had big transmission problems. Germany had a wartime shortage of key alloying agents for high strength steels. To reach the desired high production rates a more readily available, but lower-quality steel had to be substituted in the production of the double spur gears.[38] Compounding these problems was the fact that the final drive's housing and gear mountings were too weak, because of the type of steel used and/or the tight space allotted for the final drive; the gear mountings thus deformed easily under the high torque and stress loads, pushing the gears out of alignment and resulting in failure.[39] The final drives of the Panther were so weak that their average fatigue life was only 150 km. In Normandy, about half of the abandoned Panthers were found by the French to have broken final drives.[26] From Wiki on Panther |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1142688 | 2010-10-11 08:01:00 | It is amazing and i look for it. | inman2787 (16018) | ||
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