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| Thread ID: 113314 | 2010-10-13 23:07:00 | Top scienitist - GW a scam | SolMiester (139) | PC World Chat |
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| 1144654 | 2010-10-18 03:06:00 | qazwsxokmijn, you're right, that's why they call it "climate change", coz it doesn't really bear much relevance if it increases or decreases over a year / decade / millennium, it'll even itself out eventually ;) | Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1144655 | 2010-10-18 06:30:00 | qazwsxokmijn, you're right, that's why they call it "climate change", coz it doesn't really bear much relevance if it increases or decreases over a year / decade / millennium, it'll even itself out eventually ;) The term climate change is part temperature change, and that's where the common misconception lies - people have been desensitised to 'global warming' and now 'climate change' means the same, although it is not entirely the same thing. Climate change involves a whole lot more than just temperatures, it's changes in atmospheric content, movement of energy (fancy term for wind), precipitation levels and patterns, global energy circulation (both in air and water), and of course, temperature. I admit I'm no expert in this field but I know enough to be able to distinguish global warming from climate change. EDIT: This article puts my argument in far better words :p: www.grinningplanet.com |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 1144656 | 2010-10-18 07:30:00 | Sorry, have to disagree on each point. Data were not 'tampered' with - I presume you refer to the East Anglia emails affair. That has been investigated in at least three different enquiries, and the science has not been faulted. Data has been tampered with and that is something you can not deny unless you are an ostrich. On your point 1: lot's of people dispute (and think they can refute) climate change, but the evidence is against them. It is global warming that is grudgingly being accepted by many skeptics, and it needs a high degree of perversity to deny that the global temperature is rising. Climate change is one of the effects of global warming, and that is the focus of the arguments. There is just as much evidence refuting MMGW. I'm afraid you have missed the bus as the tide has turned totally against you. The current global warming is definitely the result of human activity, and the responsibility for any climate change resulting from the warming will be on us. Out voted. Your point 2: Given that we have caused the problem and the consequences will be as serious as many think they will, then it is not good enough to shrug it off and say "there's nothing we can do". We're more clever than that. The human race might be clever in some ways but bloody dumb in others and are not unlike sheep at times. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1144657 | 2010-10-18 07:34:00 | on the same scale but opposite end however is the likes of Al Gore (though personality-wise I find him much better than Clarkson). Al Gore was out to make money out of the flu caper and is out to make money out of carbon credits so how you can think he is better than Clarkson who is just an entertainer dumbfounds me. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1144658 | 2010-10-18 07:56:00 | Al Gore was out to make money out of the flu caper and is out to make money out of carbon credits so how you can think he is better than Clarkson who is just an entertainer dumbfounds me. Don't get me wrong, I think both are complete *******s and would trust neither. |
qazwsxokmijn (102) | ||
| 1144659 | 2010-10-18 08:59:00 | I think the carbon tax should be optional for those who believe in global warming. It would be like christians trying to force people of all religions to tithe 10% of their wage, it just doesn't happen :pf1mobmini: |
Chilling_Silence (9) | ||
| 1144660 | 2010-10-18 11:10:00 | It would be like christians trying to force people of all religions to tithe 10% of their wage, it just doesn't happen :pf1mobmini: Or forcing shops to close on Easter. Wait... |
ubergeek85 (131) | ||
| 1144661 | 2010-10-18 12:06:00 | Largest most intense typhoon ever crossing Indonesia at the moment. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 1144662 | 2010-10-18 12:16:00 | Largest most intense typhoon ever crossing Indonesia at the moment. Quote "becoming the strongest cyclone to hit the country in years." does not equate to ever. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 1144663 | 2010-10-18 18:19:00 | Largest most intense typhoon ever crossing Indonesia at the moment. Haven't they paid their Carbon Tax? :eek: |
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