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Thread ID: 113341	2010-10-15 05:00:00	The Great Depression #1	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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1145080	2010-10-15 19:40:00	Perhaps another war would suit you? That totally uncalled for. How come you can get away with being a total **** here and the moderators do nothing?	prefect (6291)
1145081	2010-10-16 11:00:00	My parents were young adults during the depression and WW2 years. They have always shown a very frugal streak, which has lasted pretty much all these years. Dad would have seemed tighter than a Scotsman. Nothing would ever get thrown away. Used nails would be hammered straight and kept for re-use. Any and every old bolt and nut would go into a jar. The people in todays throw-away society have no idea at all what a decent depression can be like, and no idea about hardship. Who ever bothers to darn the holes in their socks any more? Many folk never even wear out their clothes now. They buy their jeans with cheap and nasty pre-worn bleeching effects on them from the factory, and throw them away at the end of the season, regardless of their state. It's been said that war time led to a reduced rate of heart attacks, due to petrol rationing forcing people to walk more. A decent depression would have a similar effect on our fat-ass society, and may do many of us a lot of good (myself included). Sure, there's hardship and suffering, but also a decent taste of true reality for practically everyone. Our wealth is an illusion, and sooner or later we'll get a harsh lesson about our debts and the highly volatile 'value' of a dollar. It'll remind us of the value of a community, and to appreciate the basics of health and family a whole lot more. Work may be viewed as a privelege instead of a chore.	Paul.Cov (425)
1145082	2010-10-16 18:39:00	Originally Posted by pctek Perhaps another war would suit you? Pointing out that a lot of people have no understanding of personal responsibility is no call to be insulting. A lot of the skills that people had and used to get them through the hard times have been lost or forgotten, replaced by an attitude that WINZ will take care of them. Where would these people be if there were no WINZ ?	limepile (96)
1145083	2010-10-16 20:29:00	My Dad left school aged 14 in 1930 as the Depression here began to really bite. Found work in a grocery store for 5 shillings a week ( that's 50c). He supplied the bike for deliveries and paid it off at 2/6 (25c) a week. Gave his mother 2/- (20c). At 20 got an apprenticeship with a baker and earned 15/- a week until called up in 1940. Mum worked in her father's bakery in small rural town and was not paid but got bed and food. Man-powered in 1941 to Bells tea factory in Dunedin. They never forgot. It was dinned into me that to get on one needed skill or trade qualifications. Never buy anything but your home on credit, save a little each week for bad times can and will happen again. Never discard, socks will be darned, clothing recycled, collars turned on shirts, fix what you can by neighbourliness, swap fruit and veges, go rabbit shooting for "underground Fowl". Illegal to sell wild rabbit here. Many NZ men in work camps for a pittance in remote county with pick and shovel and wheelbarrow eg the Summit Road in Christchurch was built during the depression this way. Very tough times that we have never experienced in the last 70 years.	leonidas5 (2306)
1145084	2010-10-16 21:57:00	How come you can get away with being a total **** I'm a ***? What do you call dragging beneficary bashing into a discussion on the depression then. You brought up wars. I bet loads of people then would have been grateful for the dole instead of starving on the street.	pctek (84)
1145085	2010-10-16 22:10:00	It was not the sharemarket crash that caused the great depression. But the trade war that followed it, every country put up tariffs and trade slowed. Now we have idiots like Ben Bernancke starting currency wars, trying to get Americans to borrow more money and export more due to a lower dollar. And now every other major country is doing the same ! And Timothy Geithner is too chicken to label the Chinese as currency manipulators The scary thing is that I think it was really only the start of the Second World War that got the world out of the depression putting men back to work in factories and the army etc. Lets hope that the next G20 meeting in Korea comes up with something good.	Digby (677)
1145086	2010-10-16 22:39:00	That totally uncalled for. How come you can get away with being a total **** here and the moderators do nothing? Have you ever thought your overall atitude attracts it. Commie bashing, beificiary bashing, I hate drivers that don't drive to my standard etc. Do you get the idea.	mikebartnz (21)
1145087	2010-10-16 22:42:00	My Dad left school aged 14 in 1930 as the Depression here began to really bite. Found work in a grocery store for 5 shillings a week ( that's 50c). He supplied the bike for deliveries and paid it off at 2/6 (25c) a week. Gave his mother 2/- (20c). At 20 got an apprenticeship with a baker and earned 15/- a week until called up in 1940. Mum worked in her father's bakery in small rural town and was not paid but got bed and food. Man-powered in 1941 to Bells tea factory in Dunedin. They never forgot. It was dinned into me that to get on one needed skill or trade qualifications. Never buy anything but your home on credit, save a little each week for bad times can and will happen again. Never discard, socks will be darned, clothing recycled, collars turned on shirts, fix what you can by neighbourliness, swap fruit and veges, go rabbit shooting for "underground Fowl". Illegal to sell wild rabbit here. Many NZ men in work camps for a pittance in remote county with pick and shovel and wheelbarrow eg the Summit Road in Christchurch was built during the depression this way. Very tough times that we have never experienced in the last 70 years. Underground fowl lol, yeah it was sure no joke by looking at my Grand parents faces when they talked about it. My family probaly not so bad off as others they grew tobacco and hops smoking and drinking piss does not decline much in a down turn.	prefect (6291)
1145088	2010-10-16 22:44:00	Farmers in the US did pretty good and there were even some subsidies from the Feds to keep the farms going - fuel and tools and such for the tractors, tires and such for transportation and even a new car allowance for the family to 'grease' the wheels of the farmer's productivity. US farms are "still" heavily subsidised (Protected) as a result of the great depression to the tune of something like $20bn a year. If US Farmers were forced to compete in a true free trade environment like NZ farmers many would go to the wall.	Battleneter2 (9361)
1145089	2010-10-16 22:49:00	US farms are "still" heavily subsidised (Protected) as a result of the great depression to the tune of something like $20bn a year. If US Farmers were forced to compete in a true free trade environment like NZ farmers many would go to the wall. The thing since the late 1890s is that NZ farmers have always been efficient.While we pioneered cool miking sheds Europeans were going out to Daisy with a stool and a bucket. The only thing that can kill our efficient primary production are import protections. One glorious day the protections might be all gone and a true capitalist competitive system can work on a level playing field.	prefect (6291)
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