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Thread ID: 113314 2010-10-13 23:07:00 Top scienitist - GW a scam SolMiester (139) PC World Chat
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1144674 2010-10-19 08:16:00 The term climate change is part temperature change, and that's where the common misconception lies - people have been desensitised to 'global warming' and now 'climate change' means the same, although it is not entirely the same thing.

Climate change involves a whole lot more than just temperatures, it's changes in atmospheric content, movement of energy (fancy term for wind), precipitation levels and patterns, global energy circulation (both in air and water), and of course, temperature. I admit I'm no expert in this field but I know enough to be able to distinguish global warming from climate change.

EDIT: This article puts my argument in far better words :p:

www.grinningplanet.com

That's quite a good reference that gives a fair summary of the situation. The thing to remember about 'global warming' and 'climate change' is that they are linked by a cause and effect relationship. Lots of things can change the climate but global warming is the one we need to watch.

Before I retire from this discussion let me recommend two books to anyone who is really interested in finding out more about this topic:

Poles Apart by Gareth Morgan and John McCrystal (Random House)

Merchants of Doubt by Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway (Bloomsbury Press)

Now I must rush to catch that bus I missed when the tide turned. Hope they will let an ostrich on board.
Jayess64 (8703)
1144675 2010-10-19 10:24:00 Before I retire from this discussion let me recommend two books to anyone who is really interested in finding out more about this topic:

Poles Apart by Gareth Morgan and John McCrystal (Random House)

Merchants of Doubt by Naomi Oreskes and Erik M. Conway (Bloomsbury Press)

Gareth Morgan should stick to riding motorcycles and investing money. He is one that will love the carbon tax that will do nothing to reduce it.
As for Merchants of doubt their message works both ways.
mikebartnz (21)
1144676 2010-10-19 19:44:00 Agreed Mikebartnz
Gareth Morgan asking for more carbon tax has as much respect from me as that toyata manager asking for more petrol tax = less than zero
Gobe1 (6290)
1144677 2010-10-19 20:03:00 Ever since coming into millions,he has taken up the mantle of the all knowing.

With ref to G Morgan.
Cicero (40)
1144678 2010-10-19 22:34:00 The **** will hit the fan in a few months when fuel prices rise. When shown how much of the price is taxes will enrage a few people and its going to get political. prefect (6291)
1144679 2010-10-19 23:00:00 Take note in Venezuela price of fuel is 12 cents a gallon
They say "petrol is cheaper than water": (same in nz)
Gobe1 (6290)
1144680 2010-10-20 00:19:00 The **** will hit the fan in a few months when fuel prices rise. When shown how much of the price is taxes will enrage a few people and its going to get political.

I have yet to see any complaints apart from wingeing,about prices.

We tend to just grin and bare it.
Cicero (40)
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